Is it KICKSTART 2.05 or My Amiga's fault?

[CodeHunter]

Hello All,
When I use ADF2Disk to convert games or demos into real A600HD floppy disks, my Amiga can NOT read them. ADF2Disk reports that it has finished writing to disk, but when I boot from this newly created floppy, my A600HD bypasses it and boots directly back to WB. I can hear that it reads for couple of seconds from the floppy disk, but it just keep booting back to WB.

Why is the reason for this? I have 2.05 KICKSTART and I am running WB 2.1 on my A600HD. I am also using 1.4HD floppies (can't find DD floppies no more, although I had just ONE single DD, and I used that and still my A600 bypassed it and booted into WD instead of launching the game, or demo.)

Questions:
1) If most Amiga games are written for KICKSTART 1.3, then how come A1200 is touted as the best of the Amigas? What about 'big-box" Amiga systems, such as A2000, A3000, A4000? Could they run games/demos as good as an A500 with plain 1.3 KS?

2) Why my A600HD with 2.05 KS can NOT run these games?

3) Is there a better utility than ADF2Disk for converting ADF images back into real Amiga floppy disks?

4) How can I convert the .dms format games/demos (mostly demos) back into real Amiga floppy format to be played back on my A600HD?

Any help would be appreciated.  

Thanks.

[Kronos]

a) It's allways your fault !!

b) Used KS should have no effect on the created disks, and even if a game is incompatible it would just crash AFTER starting to boot.

c) my money is on a misaligned/faulty floppy. Any other floppy/Amiga at hand ? Any disks that do boot ?

A1200 "best" Amiga ?? Not in my book ..... it is the most sensible solution if you want to run games on real HW with WHDLoad (after you added an 030-accel that is) but for everything else there are better choices.

[TheBilgeRat]

Questions:
1) If most Amiga games are written for KICKSTART 1.3, then how come A1200 is touted as the best of the Amigas? What about 'big-box" Amiga systems, such as A2000, A3000, A4000? Could they run games/demos as good as an A500 with plain 1.3 KS?

Sure.  It just depends on what you are playing.

2) Why my A600HD with 2.05 KS can NOT run these games?

Which games?  How are you trying to run them?  If you are "acquiring" these games from certain places, sometimes the adfs are corrupt.  your floppy drive could be badly misaligned or dirty as well or plain old broken.

3) Is there a better utility than ADF2Disk for converting ADF images back into real Amiga floppy disks?

not really.

4) How can I convert the .dms format games/demos (mostly demos) back into real Amiga floppy format to be played back on my A600HD?

Out of curiosity, are the floppies set to bootable?

DMS:

http://aminet.net/package/util/arc/dms111

[CodeHunter]

"Out of curiosity, are the floppies set to bootable"

How can I make them bootable? Thanks.

Also, how can I re-align my floppy drive?

[CodeHunter]

I have downloaded and transferred DMS (actually it is called dms111.run) onto my CF card. When I run it, it unpacks this file, but I am not sure where it gets unpacked: I even use show ALL FILES, but I can not find the extracted files.
UPDATE: For some reason, DMS showed up and I tried to copy a DMS file onto a floppy, it copied to track 80, then I got a NOT A DOS DISK error. I am trying to FORMAT these floppies using X-Copy (using the option (D)OS) to see if I can get them to work.

[Markus_Bieler]

1. boot as normal into Workbench.

2. Grab an empty/unused disk and put it into df0:

3. Format df0:

4. Open a shell/CLI and enter at promt "install df0:".

5. Now make a reset (ctrl A A) with the disk still in df0: -> it should boot into an empty cli-box

6. If not, your drive is :insane:

Markus

[CodeHunter]

Do you know why I get the "Not a DOS disk in device DF0" error? I even used X-COPY to format this floppy diskette and it even showed as a valid disk on my WB (I could see its name).

[CodeHunter]

More UPDATE: OK, it seems to be that my floppy DRIVE has some sort issue: When I insert a floppy diskette, if I don't hear it click loud, then it won't boot the game/demo. If it does, then it will boot it correctly. How can I fix/clean/re-align it?

Thanks!

[CodeHunter]

To Markus_Bieler

Thanks for the instructions, it indeed is correct and boots into an empty CLI box.

[Markus_Bieler]

More UPDATE: OK, it seems to be that my floppy DRIVE has some sort issue: When I insert a floppy diskette, if I don't hear it click loud, then it won't boot the game/demo. If it does, then it will boot it correctly. How can I fix/clean/re-align it?

Thanks!

Could be that the little notch which tells the drive a disk insert won't do that any more (sorry for :eek: english). Look into the drive. There should be on the left side two (white) knobbles. the left one ist the write-protect-switch, the next one is the disk insertswitch. On the right side would be the HighDensity-Switch.

Markus

[RTID75]

I have a similar problem with my resurrected A1200. Until the weekend my Micronik HD DF0 drive was working fine. I put some olds discs in that had got damp in the past that I hadn't realised had some residue on the disc surface. They wouldn't read, but then every disc I tried wouldn't read either. I took the lid off the drive and cleaned the heads with tape head cleaner on a cotton bud and after a lot of time the drive eventually seemed to be ok. I went back to the machine again a day or two later and it won't read anything again. Anyone any ideas?