bvision and fastata (bvision kit)

[kas1e]

Hi all. I want to put in my system with mediator also a bvision. And here is a litle problem with fastata, it is not have place for bvision. So, i check google, and found that for it need a 'bvision kit for fastata'. I found only one picture with 4 sockets, and how i understand this construction just spare sockets and fastata can be put a bit lower and bvision can be set. So! question to all who have bvision with fastata - can you plz do some photos of this construction ? becouse i want to made it myself, and just want to see how it realise from elbox. (or maybe someone can give some link with BIG photos) Thanks.

[doctorq]

AFAIK the BVision kit only rises the FastATA controller, so the BVision card can be placed underneath the FastATA.

[kas1e]

yes, i think it is. just curios about mechanical part of bvision kit, how it realise by elbox (photos from both side will be very good).

[doctorq]

No mechanical parts is involved in the kit, just sockets to extend the kickstart port. Been a long time since I have had a BVision kit, so maybe it has changed, but I doubt it.

[darksun9210]

no it hasn't changed. i got one end of last week. it is four rom sockets to rise the height of the fastata over the motherboard.

unfortunatly. i can only fit one pair of rom sockets in a desktop machine before the front rom on the fastata is actually lifting up the keyboard.

however, i would recommend a bvision kit as standard with the fastata, even if you only fit one pair of rom sockets as it makes for a much better and more solid / reliable installation of the fastata

 :-)

[kas1e]

darksun9210, can you make a photos of this kit from both sides ? I just interesting how made contacts between rom sockets. Also i will make own kit becouse for me it will cost somethink over 20$ (with shipping) and one month of time Also, i am already have these roms socket. Becouse i have internal scandoubler, and fastata will not fit with it and i was must to little 'UP' fastata by 2 new socket roms. And i buyed 4 roms (only for 15 cents per socket), and 2 was unusable. So, now i have 4 and will want to make big amiga monster with tons of hardware On this picure i see somethink other except 4 roms. For what reasson this cable spagetty ? And for what reasson here is blue paper ?

[doctorq]

The blue "paper" is just the foam the sockets are placed in, so the pins doesn't break off. The cable is to replace the old cable, which apparently isn't long enough if you raise the FastATA controller. It's a simple pin --> pin cable, like the one you have now.

This kit is a kit anyone can build; 4 new sockets matching the kickstart sockets, and a new, longer cable using the old connectoers.

[darksun9210]

ok, i'll take some snap shots tonight... i won't take the fastata board off, as i am out of cable ties  :-(

basicly, take the roms off the A1200, push the extra rom sockets into their place, push the fastata board onto the rom sockets, lock down with cable tie. put roms onto fastata board. done.

the blue cardboard is just for shipping to protect the rom sockets, as they are shrinkwrapped to it. the other thing is a replacment ribbon cable to go between the fastata board and the socket that clips over the gayle (i think) chip on the mainboard. - if you need it.

i could only fit one pair of rom sockets in a desktop case. i havn't got a PPC card to see if this is going to still be a problem with my BvisionPPC...  :-)

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Woops! DoctorQ got there before me  :-D

[x56h34]

Also required, however not included in the BVision kit are longer cable ties so that the FastATA would be tightened and secure in the rom + extension sockets.

[darksun9210]

yeah i had to nab some from work  :roll:

[kas1e]

replace old cable ? here is only one cable from chip to fastata (and this cable have only 14 pins). As i understand i must to solder 2 rom sockets (where is 40 pins for each, so 80 pins) and i musr solder all 80 pins to new pins. But for what reassons i need to change old 14pin cable ?

best way is someone anyway will can to made a photo

btw, here is my fastata/mediator shoot with new cable which i used in fact of internal scandoubler
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/961/1_2269.jpg
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/961/1_2268.jpg

Well, i want to move fastata a bit to left side of motherboard, and put the bvision under mediator.

[doctorq]

Please read everything again.

You don't need to solder anything, each socket fits on top of another one, just like the FastATA fits in the rom sockets, so it is just to install it. The new cable is there because the old one might be to short to give a proper connection between the two boards, so it's only a cm longer than the one you already have.

-EDIT-

Links added to the last posts shows that you don't need the cable, as the one you have is already long enough. Just plug in 4 new sockets (2 in each) in the kickstart sockets, and place your FastATA on top of it.

[kas1e]

do you mean rise fastata to up ? but mediator can't allow to me more than one new socket to kikstart rom + fastata + kickstarts on top (becoise mediator fit no so upper on mather board).

So, i thinking about rise fastata to left side (not uppear). And as i understand, elbox kit it is only 4 sockets and new cable, and sockets just fits 2 in each ? If yes, it is not help me, need do somethink other .. or rise fastata to left side (do new stuff with 4 sockets like on bvision picture, and solder every contacts on botch. Or, do somethink with mediator and a bit 'up' it, but have no idea how ..

[doctorq]

The BVision kit only rises the FastATA, so it won't help you out. If you want to fysically move the FastATA, you will need to make your own solution.