PAL A1200 in the US?

[K7HTH]

Has anyone tried playing PAL games through an Eyetech external SD/FF on an NTSC monitor?  

[Zac67]

With a SD/FF you wouldn't use a video monitor, since it's 15kHz and the SD/FF outputs 31kHz...

[leirbag28]

@mr_a500

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Of those, I only use Protracker and there is an NTSC mode for that.

You don't have to reboot with Degrader. Typing "degrader 50hz 50hzsystem noeditop" will switch to PAL mode. With PAL programs, if ModePro can't change modes for me, I make a script file (run with iconx) where I switch to PAL and when the program is finished, switch back to NTSC.

So my script file for BabeAnoid is like this:

c:degrader 50hz 50hzsystem noeditop
BabeAnoid.exe
c:degrader 60hz 60hzsystem noeditop

I've also got two ABCdir buttons for running Degrader - one for PAL, one for NTSC so I can do fast switches.

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1. There is an NTSC mode in ProTracker??   where?

2. Although its a brilliant Idea and I thought of doing something Similar using ToolsDaemon (Amiga's REAL Start Menu)  why not just use Nico Fracois's  PAL and NTSC commands??? Ten Billion times easier. You just Type PAL.and whalla! or Type NTSC and Whalla!  I have them both on my ToolsDaemon/Sytem/Commands menu.or you can write a script and replace the Word DEGRADER with PAL or NTSC accordingly


3.  The reason Fire And ICE and Babenoid are not working for you is either because you Dont have the necessary AGNUS Chip that displays REAL PAL (You can load and view them with old AGNUS but in NTSC cut off screen mode)  or Your Amiga is NOt being put into PAL mode At all though you tell it to.

I can see Babenoid just fine...........I know how you can know for sure 100%.......simply boot Babenoid in NTSV mode On Purpose!  and listen to the music..........now put it in PAL.........if the music is slightly slower.its in PAL...and if you still cant see the BAT then you are right about your monitor not being able to see full PAL.........and I am one of the lucky few to have a  Magnovox Instant PAL Squash mode  monitors :-D  but even then.........there are games with are  to extreme PAL mode that cant be viewed.

Use the PAL and NTSC commands as I said from Nico Francois if Degrader shows no results.

I can email them to you if you need them.

[leirbag28]

@mr-a500

Yeeehaaaa!

I was wrong about my Monitor.its better than I thought!  it display wayyyyy more than EXTREME PAL overscan!

Man this monitor is the BOMB!   is that politically incorrect? hehe

Magnovox/PHILPS monitors are the Best indeed........but personally I will probably take the guts out of this monitor and put it in a 1084s :-)


And Babenoid shows full screen on here.I can see the Bat and the score or numbers below it and even the black border underneath.

so either you have and old 1080 that someone stuck into your 1084 or the Amiga is NOT in PAL mode.as far as EXTREME PAL.........i still think 1084's cant display it.

[mr_a500]

[leirbag28]

@mr_a500

1. Im gonna have to locate that Protracker then

2. as far as PAL and NTSC from Nico Francois...........they DEFINITELY work for games for me.  For instance.......if I boot a game that will only work in PAL, such as RuffNTumble..and I just boot it...it will only go to the main menu....the game wont show............but if I execute the PAL command right before booting it....it works!  (I wish someone could make this game run in NTSC mode!  without the image shifting down!  Look at the Game OUTFALL!   Brilliant use of PAL and NTSC)

3. Well then, you got screwed with a cheap 1084 haha :-)

I do not Currently Have a 1084..........I have the American Version of the PHILIPS CMK8833 or whatever its called.......and its Labeled MAGNOVOX but its the same if not better, than the PHILIPS and any 1084s. I had the 1084, and 1084s D2and 1084s D1 and the Boxy 1084s..I have had them all.  Nothing beats this MAGNOVOX/PHILIPS except maybe a PHILIPS TV because although they lack RGB input.they do the same as this monitor which is shrink the PAL imgage.

[broken]

Wow!

Apparently this is a bit of a hot topic. Any suggestions for the best course of action to take on this?


If I buy an NTSC A1200, what would my best bet for a monitor be if I want to be able to use NTSC and PAL software?

Would looking into a SC/FF device and a VGA monitor be suitable? How do these devices handle PAL screen modes?


I am mostly interested in using it for games, demos and classic Amiga software.

Thanks y'all!

[The_Editor]

ebay yourself a 240 volt generator, PAL TV, PAL VCR  (uk Vcr's play both PAL and NTSC), PAL A1200 & PAL 1084s.

Sorted !!

[leirbag28]

@broken

Its not really a big problem. Get yourself an  NTSC A1200 and a 1084s and your done

I get buy really well with my CD32/SX32 Pro connected to a TV with S-Video..........S-Video is almost as clear as RGB.


I prefer PHILIPS or Magnovox Televisions as alot of them Display PAL if I need it.