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CF Card Recognition
« on: January 21, 2006, 06:20:34 PM »
Fellas,

I want to replace my error-riven HD with a CF card.

I have a 256Mb Lexar CF card and a chinese IDE to CF adaptor.

I set the card in the adaptor correctly, and I set the jumper to 'master'.

I then switch my A1200 on and absolutely nothing happens. If I switch off, set the jumper to 'slave', when I switch back on the card flashes a bit and does nothing more. A minute or so later the floppy drive comes to life and I can load workbench.

But, using either HDTools or Adprep, I cannot get the machine to detect the card! no matter what I do, it will not recognise the card.

Can anyone help me here please?

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2006, 06:44:38 PM »
Is there anything else on the IDE cable with the flash drive? I had a cheap flash drive and it would only work if it was the only device on the cable.

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2006, 07:20:06 PM »
Hi,

No, the IDE cable has only one connector at either end, and so the CF card is the only hardware device attached.

Peter
 

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2006, 07:36:17 PM »
Does anything show up on scsi.device unit 0 in HDToolBox when the device is set to master? If not, try RDPrep (rdp391.lha on Aminet).

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2006, 07:57:57 PM »
Moto,

The problem is that I cannot boot the machine at all in master. If set to slave, the floppy will eventually churn, so I can load workbench 3.1 from the floppy. I can then get at HDTool box and RDPrep (via a floppy)but none of them can 'see' the hardware at all.

The CF card goes onto my IDE cable and I have to disconnect the harddisk before I can do that.

I don't have to set my floppy drive to 'slave' do I? If so, how?

Peter
 

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2006, 08:17:29 PM »
Silly question, but did you provide power to the CF card?
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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2006, 08:21:17 PM »
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Silly question, but did you provide power to the CF card?

I think it's powered through the connector, like the hd.

I had the same problem, but managed to get it to work by fiddling with the master/slave-jumper. Eventually HDToolbox would recognize the card and give the possibility to format.
 

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2006, 08:21:27 PM »
Moto,

No. I was lead to believe that the power comes from the ide cable. There are no extra pins left behind once the ide cable is attached to the Adaptor. There is a small light which stays lit when the jumper is set to master and flashes once or twice only when set as Slave.

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2006, 08:42:30 PM »
How long did you leave it to get to the kickstart screen? It can take a long time with an unformatted disk attached to the IDE interface. (>30 seconds).

I actually had exactly the same problem with an IDE flash drive, but mine was connected to a 4 way buffered interface so my situation was a bit different.

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20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
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40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2006, 12:14:42 PM »
Moto,

Thanks for that. How did you come by your 4-way buffered interface? Did you make it yourself or did you purchase it? and if the latter, from where?

Peter
 

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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2006, 01:10:07 PM »
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pgs49sulli wrote:
No. I was lead to believe that the power comes from the ide cable. There are no extra pins left behind once the ide cable is attached to the Adaptor. There is a small light which stays lit when the jumper is set to master and flashes once or twice only when set as Slave.


Have you double checked the cable is plugged in the right way around?
'Cos I had a similar 'no boot' problem years ago when I put a 2.5"HD in my A1200 with the cable wrong :-x
 Also, does the same thing happen with no CF card in the adapter?
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Re: CF Card Recognition
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2006, 01:20:59 PM »
Doobry,

Thanks for the above. I presume that the cable is connected OK at the motherboard, because I simply disconnect what is a working HD and (obviously when powered-down) connect the adaptor to it observing the arrowed pin number one indicator.

When I took the card out of the adaptor, after a couple of seconds of inactivity the floppy kicked-in and I can load WB from there. But still RDPrep, when loaded from a second floppy disk drive, does not pick up the device.

Peter