old scsi HD 9 gig

[Will-i-am]

My old pal Larry, the famous guy who gave me two supercharged A4K Amigas and the mysterious '060 card, also gave me an IBM 9 gig HD model DNES-309170. I'd like to use this puppy, especially in the desktop model Larry gave me. Trouble is, when I hook it up and use HDTools I seem to get a lot of nonsense numbers and end up with only using about 2 gigs. I found a site with the stats on this thing, but they don't seem quite the right numbers for what I need to force the issue(like it doesn't list any 'cylinders' or blocks). Any ideas as to how I can make the A4k "see" all 9 gigs and partition it into reasonably sized sections? I plan to do some animations and maybe even screw around learning some programming in my old age, so I don't need huge partitions, but I really would like more than 1/4 of the damn drive. Obviously one approach is to toss it and buy a new drive, but I realy don't like that approach. I like to use what I have. I even pulled a tiny HD out of an ancient Intergraph workstation, like 40+ megs of space, because, hey, I'm not in good shape either, but my wife doesn't throw me out!

[SilvrDrgn]

Upgrade that A4K to AmigaOS 3.5 or 3.9 and you can easily partition that drive with HDToolBox.

[Ellis]

OS 3.5 and 3.9 will solve the problem ;yes hdtool box  will get it formatted and give you the 9gb size. You could try another tool I belive it was called HDprep I will try to find it for sure.

HD tool box sucks!  

[melott]

Another one to try is 'HDInstallTools' (on Aminet).
It works well on large drives.
I like it better than HDPrep.

[Framiga]

mhhh . .whats wrong with HDToolbox from AOS3.9 BB2?

HDToolbox 45.6

[patrik]

@Will-i-am:

The DNES-309170 is a member of the "IBM Ultrastar 18ES" family of SCSI harddrives and you can find info about it here.

To the 2GB issue, what SCSI-controller are you using?


/Patrik

[zipper]

I had that drive years in my CSPPC w/o any problems - using OS 3.5 and then 3.9 of course, before I got bigger drives. But you can use it with 3.0/3.1 if you use NSDPatch or TD64 or a filesystem that supports >4 GB drives.

[Will-i-am]

I have os 3.9 on the desktop. I guess I should try again. I'm using the scsi controler on the Cyberstorm. I tried using the drive in the Tower as well with same results. Both machines have os 3.9. Isn't there some PD prog that really "looks" into drives? I seem to recall.... What about "Whichamiga?"

[zipper]

The first thing is to have BoingBag 1 and 2 installed (at least the latest HDToolbox - don't remember if it was in 1 or 2) and then edit NSDPatch config so that cybppc.device/cybscsi.device,depending on your board, is patched.

[Will-i-am]

Boingbag 1 tries to install and hangs up at 40%. The whole machine locks up and I have to power down. I tried downloading it from a couple of sites and get the same response. BB2 asks me to first install OS 3.5 (which I don't have)and refuses to install. Something is wrong here because the same archive for Dopus installs and runs fine on the desktop but bellies up on the tower. The tower is using a Cyberstorm PPC card, os 3.9 and except for a couple of strange things like that runs fine. I downloaded the Phase 5 install dms archives and wil try to reinstall the drivers and libraries and see if that helps. Can I use the HDTools off the os 3.9 CD directly?

[patrik]

@Will-i-am:

Might your Boing-Bag 2 perhaps be the OS3.5 Boing-Bag 2 as it asks you to install OS3.5 first?

Is it these two Boing-Bag archives the ones you have used?
BoingBag39-1.lha
BB3.9-2.lha

Make sure you extract them using the original BB3.9-2.lha]Lha archiver/unarchiver. This as the OS3.9 Unarc has a bug not corrected until BB2 which results in incorrectly extracted Boing-Bags. If you have extracted your Boing-Bags using Unarc earlier, it might be the reason why the Boing-Bag 1 locks at 40%. In your Boing-Bag 2 case though when it asks you to install OS3.5 I suspect it is actually the OS3.5 Boing-Bag 2 you have and not the OS3.9 Boing-Bag 2.

Btw, when the system locks completely, like it does at 40% for you when installing Boing-Bag 1, try holding down Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga for more than 10 seconds.

I have a CSPPC in my A4000 running OS3.9 working fine. I have archived the 68040 and 68060 libraries from my system to this archive. Just put these libraries from what archive in LIBS: on your CSPPC OS3.9 system and there should atleast not be any 68040/68060 library issues.


/Patrik

[Will-i-am]

The first Boingbag archive is the one I have been trying to load. I will check the libraries from your archive and see how they compare. A number of progs fail on the tower, including Dopus, but the same dopus archive on the desktop runs fine, so it has to be something outside the OS installation and the Cyberstorm seems likliest. The second BB archive wasn't familiar so I guess I have the wrong one. Maybe if I can get the libraries straight I can fix it up. I can't figure out where the damn disk went for the Phase5 software! I sold a "spare" cyberstorm to pay the school taxes and sent the CD with it because I still had the floppy. Only now I don't. I have tried every disk I have with '060 libraries but no improvement. I DLd archives of the Phase5 stuff and have yet to extract the dms archives but maybe that will give me what I need as well. Pain in the butt by and large...considering it's a hobby.

[patrik]

@Will-i-am:

On a 68060 CSPPC OS3.9 A4000 system you should not need anything else than to have the the libraries in the 680x0.lha archive present in LIBS: to get the 68060 working properly - alas you dont need the P5 disks.

Also make sure that SetPatch is executed ok in the beginning of your S:Startup-Sequence. Just the regular "C:SetPatch QUIET" somewhere near the beginning should be what you are looking for. You should also verify that it is working ok after your Workbench has loaded by executing SetPatch with no arguments from a shell - it should then tell you that it already has been installed and in the patch-list there should a line saying "68060 Support Code Loaded".

Btw, don't forget to extract the Boing-Bag archives using Lha for them to work without errors.


/Patrik