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A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« on: November 10, 2004, 02:39:24 AM »
Hi folks,

I haven't logged in for a while, and did not really follow the end of the discussion about the 68000-adapter that would give a clockport. I did eMail Ian Stedman about the schematics that he has published, telling him that what he has drawn there would never work properly because he is not using any of the strobe signals, but he never got back to me. He probably took the advice that I gave in the amiga-news.de thread: Buy a 68000 book and read it. Eiher this, or an extended why-does-my-prototype-odd-things-debugging-session is keeping him busy.

Then some people on amiga-news.de were talking about giving Ian money to produce the things, which made me worry a bit, because even more Amiga people might lose their money in something that will not work.

One saturday that I initially planned for tinkering on my car, the weather was too bad to work outside, so I had some spare time. I made a new design with clean strobe usage, two clockports, and had the "kit form" idea in the back of my head, so no programmable parts, and no SMD.

The result was a PCB that I hand-assembled, and sent to one of the amiga-news.de readers (Lemmink), who has tested the thing (I don't have a suped-up A500, and no accelerators for the 500). We found one design fault (addressing fault) and one mechanical thing, but the design worked fairly well. I did some changes, then added the PCB to a panel that went into production a few days later.

I'm a bit ashame to say that it's more than twice as expensive than the A600 clockport adapter, but I have a good justification: There are much more parts, the PCB is bigger, and you get two clockports.

I have made a really small production run, and some of them are still left. If you're interested, eMail me, or contact me through the form on my webpage www.ami.ga .

The price of the A500 dual-clockport adapter is 22,- EUR. It's not available in kit form, but only as a finished and tested product. It works with the Silversurfer, CPU cards, Subway, Delfina, Vario, and most probably also with more clockport stuff, because the generated timing is pretty much identical with the timing I'm generating on my Zorro cards.

A600 clockport adapters are also still available, the price is 9,90 EUR.

If there is enough interest, I can make any quantity of these adapters. Although it does not make any sense, it also works in the A2000, but I haven't tested it in the CDTV yet. The digital side should work fine, but I can't say anything about the mechanical side.

Jens Schoenfeld
 

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 04:00:15 AM »
Jens

This is fantastic! Thank you for your commitment to the Amiga, especially to the OLD SKOOL :)

Do you mind if I ask a couple of questions?

1. What is the status of the Catweasel 4? I'd like to purchase one.

2. What is the status of Catweasel drivers for OS4?

3. What is the status for Moprhos?

Thank you very much and keep up the good work

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004, 04:50:34 AM »
Catweasel 4 ??? What was wrong with the MK3 ???

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004, 04:56:23 AM »
@Schoenfeld

 Jens, You are seriously the coolest man on the planet! I am so greatful to you!  please please advertise these things like crazy........as many people dont realize they exist and don't know the potential of this little thing! USB on a freaking 500!  wow!  
 I purchased the A600 Clockport I believe directly from you...I have not tested it, but believe me....I am quite happy with it even if its just sitting there doing nothng!  (Because I havent purchased a subway yet plus my A600 died for the moment)

 I believe you should make much much more of these, as even if folkf don't buy them, someone in the future will buy a stash from you just to upgrade a few A500's to resell them with USB installed!]

By the way...on what does the A500 clockport plug into?

Jens, you would be the Ultimate Man!   and I mean the Ultimate!  if you made a Clockport adaptor for the CD32 with an SX32 Pro!!!!  one that will also allow the Full Motion Video card and the SX32 to be plugged simultaneously, or any other card that uses the same port, and having 2 clock ports on the same adaptor.  The FMV card can be sandwiched between the CD32 motherboard and the SX32 Board.

This clockport adaptor can get its signals and connections right from the CD32 expansion port as well as passing the port for the FMV to be installed. I can draw a sketch for you of how it might look. It would only cause the SX32 to stick out slightly more.

Wow!  please please consider this!
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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 08:59:17 AM »

Hi Jens,
I think Ian Stedman is actually working on the clockport adapter, and is bona fide. I've seen him post here and on the amiga-hacks yahoo mailing list.

I've sent you a mail through your website.

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2004, 09:56:02 AM »
magnetic:

The Catweasel MK4 is on it's way. I had to move parts of the production to far-east in order to keep the price of 99,- EUR. New date is mid-december - it's definitely going to be under the Xmas tree!

Drivers for OS4 are on their way, too. I'm amazed with the good developer support from Hyperion - they will presumably be released with the new Catweasel.

There won't be MorphOS drivers. Sorry - personal reasons.

Effy: There's nothing wrong with the MK3, it's just not available any more, and the MK4 has a few new features. However, if you have a Peg, you should stick with the MK3, because it has MorphOS drivers.

Leirbag28: My A500 clockport adapter plugs to the 68000 CPU socket. There's another line going to the CIA chip to access the INT6 line.
The CD32/SX32 expansion port is proprietary, and the connectors would be really expensive, plus the added capacitance on the bus - I doubt that this would work very stable. Perhaps the CD32 is the only Amiga that won't have a clockport any time soon.

Cyberus: I'm really not interested being associated with Ian Stedman. His publications on Aminet and on his web page clearly show that he has no idea of digital design. If anyone wants to donate something to him, it should be a book about the 68000 processor. Well, his sound mixer might work, but someone who is so proud of publishing wrong schematics and not removing them after he has been told that they're wrong might have a hard time accepting that he should stop pretending to help the Amiga community. He really doesn't - people would just sink money into him, and never see anything useful for it, at least judging from the current project status on his web page. Speaking of the web page: It looks nice, maybe that's what he should do.

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 02:41:09 PM »
@Shoenfeld

Shoenfeld wrote:  Perhaps the CD32 is the only Amiga that won't have a clockport any time soon.


Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please!!!! Please Please!!!!

How about just a simple passthrough board? I thing it may be fairly simple.....kind of like the Loopback on the FMV card or the Loopback on the  SX-1 that lets you pass the FMV through.


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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 03:09:52 PM »
Any chance of having the clockport adapters available through dealers? (or through yourself via credit card or paypal)

I have tried in the past to buy using bank transfers from the UK and it is just too difficult and too expensive.

(Shame about no clockports on the CD32, would have been good)
 

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 03:37:40 PM »
Quote

Radfoo wrote:

I have tried in the past to buy using bank transfers from the UK and it is just too difficult and too expensive.


Bank transfers dont cost anything inside the EU.. (if transfer is less than something about 20000e)

edit: Jens' note about it
And yes, I have transferred money to Germany and UK without additional costs.
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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2004, 03:40:40 PM »
It costs ME money. To transfer money from my UK to my French bank account, for example....
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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2004, 04:44:26 PM »
I know, I know, but I have tried before with UK banks Natwest and Halifax, both wanted £20+ to do the job and a signed letter explaining everything (why, how, what, shoe size etc.).

Having said that, UK transfers are a doddle, just type the account into my online banking and its done!

 

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2004, 06:43:33 PM »
@Shoenfeld

 Lets say you were to make this CD32 clockport with FMV passthrough.

 How much would it cost us the consumer?  give me a rough estimate of what you think (you never know, it may be worth paying the price to us and you get your profit)

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2004, 08:22:48 PM »
I feel the need to set a few things straight.

@schoenfeld

Things have been quiet, the day job has taken a lot of my time and other hobbies have had priority, hence the lack of progress and website updates.

I have not seen a thread on Amiga-news.de, so I do not know what you said. I have reviewed the MC68000 CPU book and I will get round to updating the design.

I have asked or been offeredto build a prototype. I have funding for my projects but not the time. I have not built a prototype to date due to other commitments but I hope to soon.

Ok so I have a wrong schematic on my webpage which has been removed now. All my other designs work. It was a preliminary design! I do digital design but not with old processors like the MC68000, they require a bit more effort on my part ;)

I'm glad you like the design of my website.

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Re: A500 clockport adapter - available now.
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2004, 01:53:22 AM »
Is anyone selling these in the U.S.?
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