Aloe Vera juice...

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There's a vitamin supplement I take called Mulitbionta - its multivitamins, with those probiotic thingies.
It has layers to protect them during digestion.

Apparently all those probiotic yoghurt drinks don't work, as even if they do contain the right kind of bacteria, it gets destroyed by the digestive system before it reaches the gut, and are a multimillion pound con...

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eh?
coffee, especially very strong coffee, gives me terrible guts!
perhaps that's just me tho'....

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Perhaps if we were clear on exactly what we were discussing....

:lol:

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I went through a period of having dodgy guts, and having recently read an article about modern bread manufacture methods, and how they basically suck, I tried a week without bread, believe it or not (not easy to do actually) and I'm feeling a lot better for it and have been off bread ever since. Hard to believe but this faux diagnosis I applied has seemed to have worked.

Of course, I'm no health expert, but it may be worth trying to eliminate certain things from your diet. I have a friend who's a nutritionist, and he says that mild intolerances to, e.g. gluten, are quite common.

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I tend to eat curry at least once a week - Madras, Dhansak and Pathia and to a lesser extend Vindaloo are my favourites. Phaal is all very well, but of you like accompaniaments with your main dish (I like Sag Bhajji or Chana dishes), it completely overpowers the taste.

The one that always seems to give me serious 'ring sting' is Jalfrezi. That's the strange thing, on the whole I can eat red hot curries, and it doesn't touch me.

The thing that would always do me in would be, for example, a nasty prepackaged sandwich - bizarre.

edit: which led to me believe it was maybe bread that was causing it.

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Well, what the article (in a Guardian supplement about 6-8 weeks ago IIRC) basically said was, and the facts are already a bit hazy, is that the older methods would take a long time for the yeast to get to work, to rise etc and also that more of the grains nutrients were left intact in the bread.
Whereas with newer methods, the yeast mixture is produced by some kind of centrifuge arrangement, with air being forced in, rather than being allowed to rise naturally, and fat used to keep it all together.
I don't remember the exact details, and some of what I have just said may be patchy.

A quick google for 'Modern bread manufacture methods' returned this link:
http://drcranton.com/nutrition/bread.htm
I'm sure there are plenty of others.

Oh, heh, in answer to your question. No, locally baked, or supermarket baked bread is just the same (at least in the UK) since almost all places buy the dough or yeast all premixed, and as always seems to be the way, there's only three major bakeries that seem to make all of the bread.
I remember a French girl I used to work with, remarked
'It's the same in France, the boulanger doesn't get up at 4am to make the dough, he buys it'
Sad, but true :-(

Perhaps we could all do with having a read around this subject. I have thought about making my own bread for a while, but I frankly don't have the time.

I'm managing to survive ok without it at the moment, in any case.

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@ Karlos

Do you live anywhere near the Oxford Road?
I remember getting a few curries from the 'curry mile' when I was a student there ('97-'98)

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:lol:


I'm not sure if I should be laughing, or scolding you for thinking such a thing! :-)

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adz wrote:

Oh, heh, in answer to your question. No, locally baked, or supermarket baked bread is just the same (at least in the UK) since almost all places buy the dough or yeast all premixed, and as always seems to be the way, there's only three major bakeries that seem to make all of the bread.

Nope, the bakers downunder are still up at 3am baking away until the afternoon, and they make their own dough, my uncle has a bakery and I am friendly with the baker around the corner from where I work. Even supermarkets make their own dough, a few years back I used to work in the store room at a major supermarket and I remember having to move huge pallets of flour.

Fair enough, I stand corrected. But the article I read in the newspapere seemed to suggest otherwise...

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Karlos wrote:

Cyberus wrote:
@ Karlos

Do you live anywhere near the Oxford Road?
I remember getting a few curries from the 'curry mile' when I was a student there ('97-'98)

That's Wilmslow Road. Oxford Road technically stopped somewhere between St Mary's and the old Jaguar showroom (no longer there, unfortunately).

I used to live near there, now I'm a bit further away. So, you were a student the same time I was also studying there :-D

Yeah, I spent a year studying Audio Technology in Salford before quitting and moving to London to study Physics. I still have friends that live in the Manchester area.
I went up to visit them when they were still at university - they all lived in the Fallowfield area (surprise!) :-)

By the by, I liked Manchester as a city, but it don't 'alf rain!!!

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Karlos wrote:

Cyberus wrote:

By the by, I liked Manchester as a city, but it don't 'alf rain!!!

I don't know what you mean... ;-)

hehe, I think I've seen that photo in the image-o-matic before.
Just looking at it again, is it me, or do the posts seem, well disjointed? It looks as if the posts that people have replied to are no longer there....or am I just a bit tired?

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Vincent wrote:

Cyberus wrote:
Just looking at it again, is it me, or do the posts seem, well disjointed? It looks as if the posts that people have replied to are no longer there....or am I just a bit tired?

Try changing it to "Oldest posts first" then refreshing ;-)

:lol:
Doh!

'silly sausage!', as my mum would say...

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hehe

I think that's one of her many East End expressions that kind of, how can I put it, imply an expletive without actually using one :-?

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Oats for breakfast are definitely the way to go.
I have porage (made with water) with dried fruit, usually sultanas for breakfast. Great in the winter, and healthy healthy healthy!!! :-D