International Amiga scammer hit squad

[Cyberus]

What do you say we start up our own vigilante group to go and beat the living crap out of people who scam people out of their money?
Each country could have its own crack team of nutters who go around indiscriminately administering beatings to those who rip off fellow members of the community.

Bernd Binder
That tosser here in UK who ripped off Dragster and x56h34
Maxxdoo
Karmanss
and maybe even DCE?

:-D




Disclaimer: I'm not being wholly serious

[Cyberus]

Perhaps we could use my avatar as the logo...hehe


edit: or how about this mean looking sonofagun:


"His ear was sliced off with a broken whisky glass in a bar-room brawl in Glasgow when he was younger, since then he has wandered the earth, venting his wrath on all who stand in his way."

[Cyberus]

I've got a close friend who does DNS, he can sort the domain name quite cheap...
Amscam.org would be 12GBP for a year at his standard price
He's an ex-amiga user himself, and sometimes visits this site

[Cyberus]

@ PMC
Oh yeah. Wasn't that in your sig? Or was it someone else's?

The problem as always, is that we have to be careful.
For instance, if one person got an item late, or defective, that isn't enough to condemn a seller in my eyes, although others may see it that way.

Notice in my first post, I was being slightly humerous with the notion of 'indiscriminate beatings' - I was alluding to the fact that innocent people often end up getting dragged into these things by the 'mob mentality'.

[Cyberus]

@mpiva

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10948

[Cyberus]

Is anyone interested in getting this idea off the ground?
I don't mind stumping up a bit of cash for the Domain registration, but as I'm moving house, well in fact, moving abroad, I don't have the time to actually author the site...any takers?

[Cyberus]

I finally got an email from maxxdoo - thanks TheMagicM {and also Acill} for all you have done to help.

I got an apologetic email saying "May god rain blessings upon your house" or somesuch. A bit of sunshine, however, would be fine by me.

[Cyberus]

@ MagicM

Did you receive it in the end?
It's been almost two weeks since he emailed me and assured me that he'd be sending the stuff, and over a month since I paid out over $100 for it, and I STILL haven't received it.
:-( :-(

I go to great lengths to keep my ebay customers happy, yet he seems to want defraud me  :pissed:

[Cyberus]

Thanks for that, I really appreciate what you have done.

As an aside,
All this 'godspeed' and 'god bless all in your house' business is really starting to get up my nose. Not because its religious, as I have a lot of respect for religion, but because he seems to use it to legitimise his dodgy practices. I'm sure a real God-fearing person would behave more honourably :-(

Fingers crossed for the items.

Did you say he sent you a 68k CPU and called it an AdSpeed?!
Its not this is it?
http://amiga-hardware.com/adspeed.html

Anyway, thanks again :-)

[Cyberus]

weirdami wrote:

and watch 'em squirm.

assuming they care or if the people they scam even know about the bad people list. a list somewhere doesn't help the general Amiga buying public.

Lets put a few things into context here:

1) When this thread was started, there seemed to be an unprecedented level of scamming going on. A guy in England ripped off people with promises of PPC cards, and someone called 'Bernd Binder' ripped off more people for a few thousand more Euros.

2) The whole thing was meant to be light-hearted, despite the fact that scamming is not necessarily a light-hearted subject. (Hence me mentioning 'indiscriminate beatings' in my first post, it was meant to allude to the fact that the mob mentality is always silly, always gets out of hand and always affects innocents.

3) The 'Doomie BS' that framiga referred to (and I'm assuming he himself realised this), is about the fact that two of Doomy's alter egos turn up near the end of the thread and have an argument with themselves. (Boing Boss and the other account which has a picture of a bowling ally as its avatar)

[Cyberus]

JaXanim wrote:
@Cyberus

Bernd Binder is actually from Germany and scammed around 2,500Euros from at least a dozen people, mainly AOrg members. The last time I heard anything he was going to trial on 'more serious' charges than AmiScamming.

Though the name-naming website being proposed is well intentioned, I just wonder who is going to be the arbitor on who gets listed? Binder, Doomy and their like may be obvious candidates, but they're reasonably well known. And remember that some(many?) of Doomy's customers seem happy with their deals. I could forsee someone getting tarred and feathered based on hearsay or for making an honest mistake. How many transgressions before you're listed? A disgruntled eBayer could invent stuff just to serve his own agenda.

Though it seems you can almost get away with murder on the Internet, there are still laws to protect people.

Just my immediate thoughts,

JaX

Jeez, I know I go a roundabout way of explaining things, but I'll state again:

2) The whole thing was meant to be light-hearted, despite the fact that scamming is not necessarily a light-hearted subject. (Hence me mentioning 'indiscriminate beatings' in my first post, it was meant to allude to the fact that the mob mentality is always silly, always gets out of hand and always affects innocents.

[Cyberus]

edit: sorry, double post