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Offline Cyberus

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Re: Kickflash experiences
« on: August 09, 2004, 03:04:17 PM »
@tjaoz

If you ARE associated with Elbox, then you're fast putting me off buying any of their products. You've turned my favourite forum into a battleground for seemingly no good reason. The poor guy who made the original post in this thread is probably none the wiser, if not more confused.
 
Sentiment is very important in business (believe it or not), and you're portraying Elbox in a very bad light at the moment.
Seems as if you're shooting yourself in the foot, if you're intention was to get people to buy your products.

Just my thr'penny's worth
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Re: Kickflash experiences
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2004, 04:35:43 PM »
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I have to admit, whatever your agenda is, in the time I have been a member here I have yet to see you express an opinion on anything in the fora that isn't directly slamming a product that is in competition with an Elbox one.

This does not do much for your credibility, nor does arguing with the designers of a rival product over their implementation - you simply cannot know more about their product than they do. Quite why you take this approach is beyond me.

Perhaps both sides can simply explain the virtues of their product without mentioning their competition?


Hello Karlos,

Could you please make an extra effort and view this thread from its beginning and you will see who is attacking whom here and who bashes competitive products.


If I may offer an opinion - the point Karlos makes is a good one. Look at most posters on this site - they ask questions when they need help with hardware, software etc, and answer questions and help other people with such problems; many, but not all, of them post in the Coffee House forums about politics, humour, religion etc.

Go to the front page and do a search for tjaoz
It will list all the threads where tjaoz is mentioned. Some of them you haven't posted in, but look at the ones you have. [these are ALL the posts by you returned by that search]

"Kickflash experiences"

"Subway USB Availability?"

"This Amiga 4000D has a secret:-D"  [thread about Prometheus]

"Mediator vs Prometheus"

"How quick are you? 6 Prometheus for $139 each on eBay."

"PCI for genuine 4000T"

"A mail from Elbox saying that they will make sure that the Algor card won't"

"just saw the worrying Poseidon news"

"Mysterious Hardware?!" [You plug Elbox in this thread]

"Shouldn't mem transfers for Mediators (orother brands) for A4000 be faster the equivalent A1200's??"

"Delphina Flipper...should i or?" [you suggest that lempkee should buy a Terratec soundcard instead]

"Why do I have to buy PoseidonUSB v2.x for Spider II from ELBOX?"

"Elbox's Spider II and Amithlon - caveat"



So there you go - Karlos was right. Have you EVER helped another user with their problems, other than suggesting they buy Elbox? Have you ever posted any interesting news? Have you ever talked about software or games? Ever talked about your favourite game or application, perhaps? Ever discussed  operating systems, next-gen Amiga solutions? Maybe even posted your views on the war in Iraq or whatever in the Coffee House? NO!

Have you EVER EVER EVER posted anything on this site which isn't plugging Elbox and slagging everything else?
- Well the answer to that question is no. It appeared to me and probably a few other users that this was the case - but I put it to you that by actually reading your past posts it is quickly confirmed.


By mentioning football, in your last post, you have set a precedent. Feeling a little off-colour?
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Re: Kickflash experiences
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2004, 06:34:45 PM »
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adolescent wrote:
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Did you bother to read all the threads you state tjaoz is attacking in?

I didn't state tjaoz was attacking anywhere. Where do you get this from? Did you bother to read my post?

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If you had, you'd see that in the "Subway USB Availability?" thread (mine BTW), Michael from E3B directly attacked tjaoz without provocation or reason.  Tjaoz never even posted in the thread.

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

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As was the thread posted by Acill "X-Surf II, what a scam...".  Tjaoz is mentioned by E3B buddies, as well as off topic post slagging Elbox by voxel, yet tjaoz never said a peep.  Also E3B plugs their product in this post.  Is this not exactly what you're accusing tjaoz of doing?

I wasn't accusing tjaoz solely of plugging Elbox, but of seemingly never contributing anything except negativity to the forums. I was commenting on the fact that most regular users actually contribute something - but that tjaoz never feels the need to contribute anything unless Elbox or a rival are involved.
Once again I stand corrected as regards the thread though.

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It goes both ways here.  I see Red doing it,

But my point is that he contributes to the forums. Not EVERY single post he makes is slagging Elbox and promoting his products is it?

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tjaoz doing it, and E3B doing it.  It appears some people just don't like Elbox and tjoaz so they take everything he says as untrue and an attack when in fact most is perfectly correct.  (For instance, buddha vs. FastATA speed comparison in the "3 new products..." thread).  

I wasn't commenting on the validity of his statements, or lack thereof. I don't wish to commentate on something I know little about.
Once again - I was commenting on the fact that he never posts about anything else outside Elbox and its competitor's products. If you read my post you will see this is the case.

I can see that he has more people 'against him' than for him. But I'm not a bandwagon jumper. I supported DoomMaster before when he was taking flak, rather than join in the playground stuff :-)

I was merely making an observation, but not for any particular motive. I for one don't want to get drawn into silly arguments.
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