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Re: The future of Amiga.org ...?
« on: August 20, 2009, 02:44:23 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;520129
Everybody seems so quick to assume the site is just going to be taken offline and disappear. That it isn't what Wayne said:

The problem is this: Everybody - except, as usual, Wayne - knows that this site isn't going to sell for 10,000 USD. It would be insane to pay that much, period.

He's not going to get what he's asking for - the question is how he's going to react. Having witnessed Wayne's reactions to similar problems in the past, I have my doubts if amiga.org will survive this.

And a few more observations:

99% of the content of this site are forum postings. These postings are owned by their authors, not by Wayne - hence he can't sell them. He can only sell the domain and the existing infrastructure.

Without you, who spent quite some time to migrate the content from the old CMS to the new one, all that Wayne could sell would be a domain and an empty forum. You don't seem to care, but the timing of events...

1. Wayne complaining that he needs to upgrade the CMS, because "running a.org wouldn't be fun anymore if we don't"
2. Karlos investing lots of hours to migrate the content
3. Wayne trying to sell the whole shebang for an insane amount of money because "running a.org is no fun anymore"

makes me feel uneasy.

Guys, this is just a domain. It's a nice one, with a lot of history, but it's just a domain. Get over it, set up an alternative (like other people did in the past) and use your money to support ongoing Amiga efforts.

That said: amiga.org is/was great, I loved it. Thanks to everybody who kept it running for such a long time. For that you'll always be fondly remembered Wayne. Thanks a lot.
 

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Re: The future of Amiga.org ...?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 03:47:39 PM »
Quote from: Wayne;520145
Very helpful.
I'm not trying to be helpful.

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Absolutely, unequivocably wrong.  Period.  Not even a point of discussion.  the content posted on ANY site becomes the inherited property of the site,
Perhaps you should do your homework regarding copyright. My postings are owned by me, unless I explicitly transfered ownership to you. Can you point me to the paragraph in the TOS that states that by posting here I automatically transfer my copyrights to you? That's a honest question - I might have missed it.

All I found was this:

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Neither Amiga.org nor it's staff are responsible for the content of user-contributed news items, comments, posts, or other similar entries.
You can either claim you own my postings, or deny reliability for them. Not both at the same time.

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Edit: if you want to consider it "selling the domain and getting free data" then that's fine, but whomever purchases the domain gets the whole ball of wax, not just the domain name.
Of course he does, I didn't mean to imply anything else. But the purchaser would only pay for domain and infrastructure, as you're not entitled to sell the postings.

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Any further insults or attacks will be met in kind.
That's good to hear.

(Edit: Typos)
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Re: The future of Amiga.org ...?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 04:19:01 PM »
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:lol:
Then why bother posting!?

Not trying to be helpful towards Wayne is not the same as not trying to be helpful at all.
 

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Re: The future of Amiga.org ...?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 04:55:32 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;520169
Are you sure spreading FUD in this thread is entirely helpful to anyone?

Feel free to point out where I spread FUD. I certainly was not polite, but I did not intend to be - because IMHO asking the community for 10 grand isn't polite either.

But this seems to be one of those he's-not-with-us-so-we're-allowed-to-burn-his-car-and-kill-his-cat moments, I guess I better take a break before people start insulting my mother or questioning the size of my manhood.