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Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« on: March 20, 2014, 11:34:30 PM »
Hey I am trying Icaros and it seems super awesome actually. This seems to be a very strong potential OS replacing Linux and even Ubuntu in all regards. Now if I can get this OS to go WiFi in my laptop with ease then this is one step closer from replacing my Windows 7.

If there is a program similar like teamviewer for icaros that is another point closer to replacing Windows 7 for me.

If icaros have a program like VLC or VLC player that is even another point closer to replacing Windows 7.

If I can do skype on icaros even if it is online and I can do video  conference on skype even if it is online then it is one point to  replacing Windows 7.

If icaros have Java support and Java script support so that I can use a java program to go online to my online university and it actually works with the latest java.com program then that is the final seal to replacing Windows 7 for me completely and I will actually go out of my way and use icaros 100% on my laptop as the main OS.



Why?

1) Speed is way faster than my Windows 7 is one factor.
2) No more worries ever again with spyware, adware, viruses.
3) The laptop is too weak to play games on it...so most of the time I use it for youtube, mp3, videos and studies, teamviewer, chatting with skype.  if icaros can do all of this then I am ready and going for replacement immediately.

Can you guys answer my request above?
 

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Re: Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 04:21:24 AM »
I guess you guys misunderstood me. I do not think I do have the  compatible hardware that you  mention...though when I ran it on the CD  it was beautiful. Liked it a lot..VERY fast and that is on the CD and  looked like a very potential OS. However, I tried to go WiFi I failed. I  tried Netgear and still have not managed to go online...so all the  other things I listed cannot be confirmed if I cannot go online.

So you can see from here I have an issue with getting it online which is  the first requirement to convince me it is a replacement OS.

So...what I wanted to know if someone can answer the remaining questions  to me if it is possible..but also if someone can help me get it online.

This is my computer spec:

          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     U9400  @ 1.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.4GHz
             
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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio (With EC))
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_11790606&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5904 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 7/28/2009 21:00:14, 1966624 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio (With EC))
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5904 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/28/2009 21:00:14, 1966624 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2938
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ Alps Pointing-device
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: ApfiltrService
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x17EF, 0x6019
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 118.0 GB
Total Space: 180.7 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: Hitachi HTS723220L9A360

      Drive: D:
      Model: MAT%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!A DVD-RAM UJ-844S USB Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

      Drive: E:
      Model: DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43&SUBSYS_000C1179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&11
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2448&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_93\3&21436425&0&F0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42&SUBSYS_000C1179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&10
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10F5&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&C8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Chipset Processor to DRAM Controller - 2A40
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A40&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1180&DEV_0822&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_22\4&2BB6A04D&0&58F0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 4 - 2946
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2946&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E3
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&EA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E9
   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&E8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_4232&SUBSYS_12018086&REV_00\4&77C3528&0&00E0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&D7
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2929&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&FA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A44&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_07\3&21436425&0&18
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&EF
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller - 2917
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2917&SUBSYS_00011179&REV_03\3&21436425&0&F8
   Driver: n/a
 

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Re: Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 05:37:29 PM »
Hhmmpf....never mind...too many AROS flavors....never just one with the strength and combinations of all these minds to make it that one as good as Linux with drivers, compatibilities, features...etc. If all these different sub community who are constantly making tinier and more variations of AROS combined and made one COMPLETE STAND ALONE NATIVE OS completely like Windows 7 for example and spend on grunting it with drivers, drivers, drivers and made it as compatible as Linux as possible with all these years passed by....it would overrun OS 4.1 and MorphOS and even 68k Amiga in a heart beat.....I would be using it as my main and only OS really...but...never mind............
 

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Re: Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 11:03:27 PM »
All this conversation still does not lead me of whether the copy I have or icaros now is compatible with my laptop or not? OK...so what you are saying internet is not supported with my laptop that checks off many things. You also said I need special USB hardware to do the job...I thought Netgear Universal WiFi thingy miggic that worked for the A1200 will work with icaros but it failed.

So now...I am confused here.  I REALLY WANT THE NATIVE icaros...I want it not some OS on top of a kernel of another. This way I can drag and drop the workbench screen like the real classic and it felt almost an x86 OS 4.1 to be honest.

However, it also failed to work and fulfill my request completely and be said it with the WINE version for hybrid of Linux/aros part...bare in mind that icaros is x86 based and WINE is open source and you can just port it to icaros natively if you wanted and have windows apps/games running on icaros.

So what I want...is icaros have support for way more hardware...especially laptop like how MorphOS is doing now.  I decided to get laptop instead of desktop because the concept of MorphOS on a laptop appealed to me....I can say the same to icaros here too.

I would rather have icaros on a laptop (find it more suitable) than spend a desktop hardware specific for icaros...you see where I am coming from?

Is there some petition donation anything can be done to allow icaros to have more hardware varieties...to give it more ability to support WiFi and more variant of laptop hardware?
 

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Re: Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 12:44:40 AM »
Quote from: persia;761106
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The advantage of running it on top of Linux are the larger number of drivers available and the ability to run Linux software.   Real up to date Chromium or other browser, Open/Libre Office, Evolution mail client (Exchange email), etc.
 

OK....in that case I might as will skip that and go right to Ubuntu. Oh...might as will skip that and go to Windows 7. There...now I am officially up to date with drivers, apps, games and support for browser.

Problem solved. Do you like my solution?
 

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Re: Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 06:59:51 PM »
Quote from: phoenixkonsole;761126
Here notebook plus icaros native
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Asus-Eee-PC701-7-Zoll-Notebook-with-AROS-on-extra-8GB-SD-card-/151245081442?pt=DE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_Notebooks&hash=item2336e8cb62


It looks to me like another laptop to buy :P I already have a very good one, then I bought a ibook g4 for morphos...I already have a good modern up to date PC tower in my room, then my A4000D, then my two consoles. I am not going to go ahead and buy another laptop just for aros when I already have a good working one here :P

I am going to just use it in vmware only then...
 

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Re: Icaros is not a bad OS at all :D
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 03:21:40 AM »
Quote from: ncafferkey;761223
You went to the trouble of buying a MorphOS-compatible laptop for MorphOS. Maybe you should have bought an AROS-compatible machine for AROS.