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Quote from: Kesa;749463
Awesome! Do it quickly before the Morphos trolls talk you out of it  ;)

P.S. If i had the money i'd buy one too.


I do not need MorphOS trolls to talk me out of it...I need the price to do the  job and it did an excellent job at that.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 06:24:06 AM »
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I've been wanting one of these too for ages. I've got the cash, but no permanent home and hence no space for a lovely X1000.

Would love to support Trevor's immense efforts. Hopefully I'll be able to in the coming months.


Actually I am thinking now....an X1000 is dirt cheap compared to a buffed up Amiga 4000D or A1200T which they can easily go for 5,000 USA dollars. So if I buy a brand new hardware that is super strong with specs for 3000 USA dollars it is nothing comparing to the 5000 dollars. In fact...I am intending to save up money for the X1000.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 09:28:43 PM »
Hold on there for a second. Are you telling me that OS 4.1 between SAM440 and X1000 in terms of development is a huge difference like say between developing for kickstart 3.1,AGA 68030 verses say on an Amiga 500 kickstart 1.3, OCS?

That software developers could easily target for X1000 while both SAM440 and X1000 run OS 4.1 that the program will fail to run on SAM440 and will only run on X1000 that...in the end the developers need to develop for two separate platforms as if you are developing the same game for xBox 360 and PS 3? Because if what you are saying is true....then not only is that awesome....but as a developer I could easily enjoy this :laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:!!!
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 12:45:24 AM »
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The price of a new one (AFAIK it is still possible to order new ones) is said to be ~$3,000 USD. This guy is asking ~$4,000 USD (€3,000 EUR) for his used one sold as second hand. It seems he is expecting to earn a thousand bucks from letting a computer get a little older. :lol:

The only thing that would be more hillarious would be if someone actually bought it!

:)

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 07:43:42 PM »
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@Delta

I know, I think we are all like that because we love using the Amiga in preference to other platforms, and we all wish we could do *everything* on our Amigas...

Personally speaking, the LibreOffice and Timberwolf are two major steps forward in that quest.

Hey Amigakit...I just want to ask one question.....what is the potential rate here between 0% to 100% that WINE for linux and Mac can be ported into AmigaOS 4.1?
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 07:56:09 PM »
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what do you want to do with wine on ppc?


Guess? Like play my favorite MMORPG game for example, run Windows apps and games...you know...that stuff...

By the way do not go through that route of...if you wants windows stuff using Windows....road...you know as well as I do..or maybe you do not know...that WINE actually helps and not hurts. For example, I am download crossover...if crossover works 100% better than WINE and it can run 60% of the applications I want in Windows in Linux and my favourite linux Distro....I would drop windows in a heart beat and go for Linux and I will be an official 100% linux user. So now Linux have a new customer...why? I do not have to deal with spyware, adware, hacking, viruses and paying fortune for applications...I can use linux free applications and my favorite games or applications that are free and really free in windows like MMORPG games and so on...I can enjoy them in Linux.

I do not have to deal with horrible file system of Windows...worry about new policy of Microsoft and be stuck with horrible user interface of windows 8 and deal with constant windows upgrade...and purchases because Microsoft no longer supports OS in favor of the new one....

By giving people the freedom to use their favorite apps that do not exist in other platforms through WINE or crossover...you are liberating people and giving them choices instead of being forced to be stuck in Windows..and then these unknown OS will be more known and more users will come to them because they know if they move platforms they STILL CAN USE their favorite apps and games....

Same concept as Amiga Clone actually could have helped old classic Amiga...
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 08:19:21 PM »
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last time i checked wine was not an emulator. it will not turn your ppc cpu into a x86 to run windows applications. you would probably, just probably, be able to run some windows_nt ppc software (if there actually is any). besides if you want to run windows software there is much faster and cheaper dedicated hardware for that system. why do you need to bend an expensive and unique os4 system to do these tasks, really?


LOL!! I just explained everything to you already in the previous post in hopes to avoid the very same thing you just said right now...but I guess it did not work.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 10:53:52 PM »
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I guess you still miss the main thing about WINE. If WINE was available for OS4 on PPC it would yield you exactly nothing as _not_a_single_ Windows (x86) application would actually run. WINE is no emulator but an API wrapper. x86 code on a ppc just will not work. Period. On a non x86 system there's no other solution to run Windows x86 applications than to emulate hardware. You can do this for example with Bochs, but it's rather slow.


So what you are saying then is...that X1000 should have it's own software library pretty much the same as SNES have it's own library verses say Nintendo 64 have it's own library?

Is it possible for WINE to work on AROS then?
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 12:21:55 AM »
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Each to their own of course but if you want to run Ubuntu you could get exactly the same experience (well probably an even better experience) for less money with a x86 box and an Amiga sticker.

I don't really see the point of buying an NG Amiga and then running Unix on it, I know of one X1000 owner who uses Unix almost exclusively on his X1000.

It's like they're saying that OS4 is not up to the job so you're better off with running some other OS on your OS4 machine, this seems very strange to me.

I think Commodore did something similar with the classics back-in-day when they released x86 daughter boards for the 68k computers, also very strange IMHO.

Isn't it exactly what they are saying? That OS 4.1 is indeed not up to the job? Even running games and MMORPG it is not up to the job...that we need PORTS from outside.....that we need different OS.....might as will avoid OS 4.1 and X1000 all together and get yourself an x86 and windows.......
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 12:56:17 AM »
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go figure..

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 02:11:38 AM »
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I mean that (to me at least), it makes more sense for company to put the effort into providing the 'missing' applications so they run natively on their OS rather than building a daughter board to run their competitors OS and applications.


LOL!!!!!!!!!! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 04:04:32 AM »
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And a x86 modern cpu completely wipes the floor with a G5.
Kind of irelevant though for MOS fans though seeing as MOS doesnt run on that hardware. (see any sort or parallel there?)

As for buying an X1000, the only sane reason a person would buy one is if they want one. On mass it wont retain its value in 25 years time the way the classics have, but if you're buying for an investment you're barking up the wrong tree anyway.
Buy one if you want to use it. No need to try to justify it. Not everyone will want to spend thousands on a machine whose specs are matched, and beaten by the sort of pc you'll find in the dumpster, just so they can run a particular OS, but if a person is inclined then far be it for anyone else to tell them they shouldnt.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=87493&vpn=MBD-H8QG7-LN4F-O&manufacture=SuperMicro

Cough cough!
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 04:51:01 AM »
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Pardon?
What does a quad socket "server" board have to do with anything here?

Just showing for dirt cheap you can buy a server compared to a 3k x1000.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2013, 03:19:01 PM »
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They were 68k based. There was a beta tester legion (about 150) who had OS 3.9 as base install and downloaded new 68k based 4.0 components from FTP when they were made available.

I do not suppose they are available now?