Status report on AmigaOS 4.2 development

[AmigaClassicRule]

Well, I sold off the parts from my Phenom II X4 system, so the hardware I'm using IS dated.

But I also like being able to shut my system off when I want to (rather then having to allow the OS to do it).

And, once I upgrade my drive to the Western Digital Raptor I have sitting on my dresser I expect even better performance (although MorphOS already works pretty good with the one  system I'm giving away that has a U320 drive in it).

Personally for just 300 bucks I have obtained a full blown super duper monster beast you name it AMD+ motherboard with a CPU black edition. It is an 8 core processor running at 3.50 Ghz each and the motherboard support 32 GB of RAM, 64 bit processor at that, with SUPER COOL FEATURES build into it include a GUI sweet BIOS system and security, flashing, USB 3.0, SATA 6 GB/s slot, PCI express, blah blah blah blah blah and even control your fan speed through your motherboard...I mean this is a monster for just 300 bucks.

Can anyone say  you can achieve all that in a PPC AmigaOS 4 for that cheap price? SO wouldn't AmigaOS 4.x have being better off in an x86 platform? All these resources, money could have spend on improving AmigaOS 4.x with better drivers to support different motherboard platforms and perhaps it can be a Linux alternative with huge software library. But being stuck in a 6k dollar PPC hardware I doubt it will go anywhere.

[AmigaClassicRule]

My windows machine boots much faster and is much more responsive in use than my Powerbook with MOS.  It runs better software and is superior in every way except one - it doesn`t remind me of being a kid nor give me a warm glow in my belly.

It`s like drugs really - there`s no logical explanation for using them, they just make you feel nice x

That is why I spend 550 bucks for an Apollo 1260 @ 80 Mhz with 64 MB of RAM and I spend 200 bucks on an Amiga 1200 and 75 bucks on a HD.

Just for that feeling...no logical reason, no common sense, just for that....a feeling I am not finding in AmigaOS 4.x even through screenshot or PC.

[AmigaClassicRule]

Can AmigaOS 4.x hardware beat this price?

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=80960&vpn=M5A97%20R2.0%2BFD8320FRHKBOX&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals

[AmigaClassicRule]

I was gonna leave this alone, but:


Maya, 3DStudio, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, After Effects, Nuke, Toxik, Mari, Painter, Animation Studio Pro, Mudbox, ZBrush, Reason and those are just a few examples of applications I use on a daily basis.

So, tell me, why would *I* spend a grand or more on a computer that for all intents and purposes will only do two things for me: web browsing and playing legacy games. Even in that the web browsing is still below what I could do on a PC and any legacy games I wished to run, I could do faster and cheaper on a PC with WinUAE, not to mention, I have a fully working A500 sitting in my closet collecting dust, 'cos I just don't have the TIME to play "legacy games."

It's the laws of supply and demand. Sure there are people that are willing to spend that money on an OS4 system and that's great for them, but for someone, like myself, whom is RELIANT on the system they use for work, how is getting a machine that does nothing I need it to do, for the price of a machine that WILL, justifiable? A fully working machine at around 300$ is justifiable to many of us, 'cos that's the price of a decent motherboard and at minimum, quad-core processor.  That doesn't meet the demand.

It's why so many of us are pissing and moaning about the "netbook" they were bragging about 2 years ago, but never saw the light of day. I love the Amiga OS and wish I could use it on a daily basis, but it doesn't meet my needs or demands. It's just that simple and tell me, is that really fair to ME, as an Amiga user?

BTW, you're Alien Attack game rocks. I've been playing the sh!t out of it, for a few weeks now. Even got my fiancee playing it. Good work! :laugh1:

-M

My turn! Things I use in Windows and gives me so much pleasure that I cannot find in AmigaOS 4.? OK:

• Unity3D
• UDK
• Game Maker 8.1
• Engine001
• Visual Studio
• Movie editing programs that allow me to convert videos to run on classic Amiga
• MMORPG games (every single MMORPG game in the market and new ones coming out)
• Sweet up to date current games and I mean thousands of games here to be listed plus old games

Pretty much if the above list is available in AmigaOS 4.1 then we can talk.

[AmigaClassicRule]

I'm perfectly happy with my 800mhz Sam, it much more than 060, Workbench is fast, wb surfing is flawless, I can watch my favorite tv series with it etc. So CPU power is more than OK for me.

Flex would be at least 200€ cheaper without those "industrial" features. Talking about x1000 is different thing, it designed with different way, to offer max CPU power for Amiga and money is not a issue.

ACube might make Amiga only mobo, if there would be enough demand to it. I would say that it is possible to make and sell Flex level mobo about 100€, IF it has only needed features. Just 3x PCI, 2-4 USB, and CPU.

I am thinking honestly here that the physical manufacturing of hardware and selling them for even cheap price is not the issue here. It is the software that makes the computer run, when we lack in this area the demand for the hardware decreases unfathomably rendering the prices to go up, manufacturing hardware to be slow and hard to find and it end up nothing more than a hobby for the rich or the insane.

Why is it worth it for me to spend 600 bucks in a classic Amiga than say 800 bucks in a modern AmigaOS 4.x? Well because it is fun squeezing and making the classic Amiga do things it was not intended to do...but also because it's software library exceed that of OS 4.x and it is native and for it! AmigaOS 4.x software library are imports that can be done with Linux for free!


To me..the only time I think it is worth getting an overprice, super expensive, no longer used PPC hardware to run AmigaOS 4.x when AmigaOS 4.x have equivalent amount of software library as Linux and should we say almost 98% the same. Then to me I would rather own an AmigaOS 4.x and then perhaps..other companies may consider AmigaOS 4.x as a suitable business OS due to the user friendliness, lack of viruses, blah, blah that even Ubunutu unfortunately still lacks on.

[AmigaClassicRule]

I know the Sam460 very well I have one on my desk.

•2 integrated Ethernet 10/100 ports
Would you get double internet speed if you hook them at the same time into the router?

•Up to 4 serial ports
In computer history from the beginning of the very first personal computer have anyone used more than serial port to benefit home users or business alike?
•2 I2C interfaces
Can someone explain to me what is that and what is used for?
•SPI interfaces
Can someone explain to me what is that and what is used for?
•64 pin for I/O General Purpose
Is this even a feature? Can someone explain to me what is that and what is used for?
•FPGA Lattice XP with 80 pin I/O expansion connector
Huh?! Can someone explain to me what is that and what is used for?

[AmigaClassicRule]

Windows 7 was great.

What do you mean was it is STILL great....please!!! It is not DEAD yet my friend! It is still can be bought from NCIX and other computer stores and by the way I have upgraded my entire hardware and software part of my compute rand I bought Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit here and I am using it now to post in this website.

[AmigaClassicRule]

After some years Sam boards price will rise again, as every unique hardware does, so 200 is very good price for mobo and licence.

Sam 440 Flex has a best software support currently and it is surpricingly fast.

But isn't it when SAM 440 Flex have best software support these same software can run on AmigaOne X1000 too without importing them or every AmigaOS 4.x hardware is different?