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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2013, 11:57:36 PM »
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That's the one.  I want the full version because The Lite version does not support AGA 1280x512 mode and does not eliminate flicker.  Lite version is not a flickerfixer, just a scandoubler.

Oh! In that case I will get the full version too.
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2013, 06:40:01 AM »
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DLP is an obsolete technology these days. Not sure what LCD's you've been using but that's not the case anymore, perhaps on older LCD's but technology has moved on since DLP was around.

There are also many different styles of LCD, LED and even OLED. All far better, then there's plasma which use to have better blacks than LCD's but not these days.

Both are as good as each other with current tech.

With 4k and 8k screens on the way time to drop the DLP and move on. But anyway this is OT so back to 060 @ 80MHz awesomeness :-)

Yeah back! :laugh1::laugh1::lol:
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2013, 02:58:29 AM »
I have one question I want to ask. My item when it arrives it is going to come with a a little cooling system (maybe a fan) installed on top of the CPU. Do I need to raise the Amiga at a certain height away from the table to get the correct ventilation running? If so, can I buy it from AmigaKit and what is it called?

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2013, 05:55:41 PM »
Hey Fishy_fiz, can you download this tv show in parts into your Windows machine and extract them there then transfer them to your Amiga system?

Ren and Stimpy Part 2: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gszb13allwcw3w3
Ren and Stimpy Part 1: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?huhigfzvgdc7iue
Ren and Stimpy Part 3: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?v6ncelgb161djnp

Use this HAM player: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fs7n05xgcw3c731

Tell me fishy_fiz about the speed of the movie, quality, sound, etc how it runs in your Amiga and what you think?

P.S "I know this is the worst example, probably because this was my first attempt and I was learning the rope. So the quality is not top notche and the audio does not sync well with video and it is not 100% complete. However it is a demo of the speed, picture and audio running in your system. The other movies and tv shows have improved by every attempt until I actually perfected 100%. The new movies use AGA, the audio/video synch 100% and the quality is close to DVD as Amiga AGA can give in HAM 8."
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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2013, 08:11:13 PM »
I just wanted to give you guys an update. I received my Apollo card and it is running at 80 Mhz as indicated, of course I have not followed Lurch advice yet in getting full optimization of it. But here is a good news about this card. It already comes with an additional 32 MB of RAM slot on the back side and I have managed to install it in the keyboard case without the 32 MB installed so I am left with 32 MB of RAM. Reason behind that is because the keyboard is preventing the 32 MB of RAM from fitting in and that means I will be forced to tower it if I want to expand the RAM to 64 MB of RAM. I have an idea guys...how about I buy this from AmigaKit instead:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=207

Then I can use a normal external PC keyboard to type and I can remove the internal keyboard of the Amiga 1200 and put it somewhere underneath my table or whatever. This way I can install the 32 MB of RAM and there will be huge space for cooling, however the only down side is that it will look a little bit ugly. So is there away I can cover up the space where original A1200 keys should come up with a plastic with tiny ventilation hole? My idea of course will mean I can able to add additional expansion as if it is towered, without the expense of towering my A1200 for just 40 bucks I can be able to use the additional 32 Mb of RAM.

What do you guys think? If you like my idea what advice you can help me from the bold text above?
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 09:42:22 PM »
Quote from: Lurch;729063
Hmm, you might as well look at towering it then. Wouldn't look good but then it will work :-)

 
That is ok. If it means towering I am more than ever happy with just 32 MB of RAM. I just need to get the keyboard reworking again in my Amiga 1200 and I should be fine. Now one more question about the USB Sub for Amiga 1200. Do I need to disable it completely in order to prevent it from consuming so much CPU power or can I just keep it active without hooking any USB devices and it should be fine? Only reason I am asking because when I installed the apollo I believe I disabled the Amiga 1200's keyboard. So I was forced to use a USB keyboard but the movie and the hamp player is on the HD. When it played the cartoon it played it in DVD quality and decent frame rate I would say a good easy 15 FPS if not 17, but the sound sounded like it is crawling a bit as if it was playing the cartoon with CPU running at 100% kind of thing. Is it because of Trident been active? If I disable it would it make a difference in performance? Again, I would have done it myself and avoided posting it here but I am not home now so I am wondering.
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2013, 03:30:09 AM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;729115
Whatever u do, u do not want to use a USB keyboard on your Amiga. That would be a horrible mistake.
 
PS/2 keyboards on your Amiga are 100% ok because they do not burn any CPU power.
 
Amiga keyboards operate for free. PS/2 keyboards operate for free. USB keyboards completely frak ur 80Mhz 060 CPU.
 
You are 100,000x better off towering your miggy and using a PS/2 keyboard. Or just suffer with a tiny little 32MB RAM.

 
Hmmm, towering your miggy or suffering with tiny little 32 MB, tower, 32 MB of RAM! Yup, I am convinced. I will stick with my 32 MB if it means sticking with A1200D case! It is not suffering, to me 32 MB is sweet, big baby!! Sure it may mean never playing Quake 2, but that is only one game, however if three to four AWESOME DROLLING new games show up plus quake 2 to Amiga that demands at least 64 MB of RAM then I will consider the major sacrifice. But since it is only 1 GAME, albiet very sweet game but still one game then I will stick with case. HOWEVER, IF DOSBOXAGA WILL NEVER WORK ON 32 MB OF RAM THEN I am running like bullet speed to tower my A1200. The best part of this card is that it already comes with the additional RAM slot upgrade...so really it is just a matter of towering my A1200 and my problem will go away and I will have 64 MB of RAM easy no need to solder or get someone to solder it for me :D :D
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2013, 04:53:48 AM »
Hey guys help! My A1200 keeps rebooting with a crash! What can I do to avoid this from happening?
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2013, 05:26:53 AM »
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What is the last thing u did to it?

It seems to only crash when booted to the previous OS installation I have before Apollo 1260 was installed. But if I run a game like total chaos it does not crash, if I run any game even boulder dash it does not crash. If I watch a movie it does not crash, as soon as I am in the desktop I have 10 seconds before rebooting commences. This prevents me from doing any necessary changes.

When I wanted to partition my drive through workbench 3.1 boot up disk (no crash by the way) I have lost all data now. I have only now two partitions of 3 GB each from my original 20 GB HD but it is no tusing the correct PFS3 file system and I cannot install OS 3.9 because I do not have a cd player and my USB does not work now. I am only stuck with PCMCIA.

What advice you guys can give me to install the PFS3 file system from workbench 3.1 boot up disk into my HD and how do I go about installing OS 3.9 into my HD?

Any help would be greatly appreciate it. Today I cannot do anything because it is late in the night, but hopefully tomorrow I should be able to start fresh and work on this. Any advice today will be greatly helpful for tomorrow.
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2013, 06:40:15 AM »
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My 1st guess would be libs. Also booting from a 3.1 disk will not show up partitions correctly as you'll effectively have no scsi.device capable of reading beyond 8gig, nor is pfs available. These things are only available when the boot media contains then. It's quite likely youve not lost your data, but rather the partitions cant be read because of no updated scsi.device or file systems when booting from a wb3.1 disk.

Assuming i have lost everything and at this point I do not mind at all. I will accept it. I want to start clean fresh installation of OS 3.9 and then clean installation of AmiKit real AGA. But before I do that I want to format all my HD using the new file system PFS3, not FFS or OFS, I want it PFS3. My USB does not work because I do not have an OS to install the driver for it and I am only now stuck with PCMCIA. What advice can you give me to achieve these goals? :)

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2013, 10:27:26 PM »
I have couple of questions I want to ask:
 
1) Can I make an hdf file in WinUAE and transfer that HDF file back into my Amiga 1200?
 
2) My problem is that Workbench3.1 itself and install3.1 will not allow me to add the filesystem PFS3. And to make matters worse, ONES I MANAGED AND FINALLY MANAGED to my eyes get the PFS3 file system into my real HD and I used the workbench31 format to format it at the end of the format there is an error validating the HD with a -3 and it still came up as System:???. When I rebooted the amiga on workbench31 the HD or System:??? is gone. What do I do?
 
3) I have no other means of getting into my HD except with workbench31 and install31 and both of those are not able to handle my situation correctly. I just wanted to partition 3 partitions all using PFS3 before installing anything on them I do not WANT TO INSTALL THEM ON FFS OR OFS ANYMORE!! What do I do??
 
4) Can I just make these partitions on my WinUAE hdf, set it the way I want it then transfer that HDF and burn it back into my A1200's real HD? If the answer is yes, is there an adf boot disk like ghostimage for windows but for Amiga that allows me to transfer HDF file back into the real HD? I have with me from AmigaKit a program that allows me transfer adf to disk and from disk to adf, is that the same program I can use for HDF for my Amiga's 1200 HD?
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2013, 02:37:27 AM »
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Yes, all I do however is use a folder on the PC as my drive then format the cfcard/hdd that's going into the amiga and copy straight from the folder to the cfcard/hdd under WinUAE.

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/pfs3aio PFS3AIO is the way to go.

Here is a good read/howto - http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=64949

You'll need to partition the drive on it's own, but follow the guide above.

That my friend is the very same tutorial I was using (even printed) to install PFS3 but to no avail. I discovered however, the difference between SFS and PFS3 is not SO GREAT, sure the PFS3 is a little bit by a margin faster so that I can live without. However, I discovered that SFS2 can support files larger than 4 GB in a single file and can see partition of HD larger than 20 GB up to 128 GB. To me THAT SOLVED ALL MY PROBLEM. So i am going to follow the video tutorial and install SFS instead...I want to get OS 39+flooded with patches+apollo1260 drivers and stuff+real AmiKit so I can START HAVING REAL FUN on my A1200. I want to play strife, scummVMAGA and so on. So hopefully if anything today I can just finally get the Amiga 1200 functional so tomorrow I can stuff software inside of it.
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2013, 06:04:11 PM »
Ok guys I am ready!! I have finally installed AmiKit AGA (real) in my A1200. I just have one annoying thing...I want to get rid of the background picture and I cannot for the like of me able too. In the prefs I even selected no background and it kept telling me to close all windows before trying and I tried but it failed..so I rebooted the system and it is still there. Can anyone help me get rid of it completely it sucking huge memory out of my A1200. Also I noticed the CPU usage is a constant 31%...is that normal with AmiKit AGA? There is no way I can lessen the use of the CPU?
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2013, 07:37:24 PM »
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r u using USB mouse or real mouse?

I am using a real mouse. But actually I have something more important than that. I have setup my main partition System to be SFS (yess) and my work partition to be SFS. I know my HD have 20 GB in total but it can only see 7 GB. How do I get the remaining missing GB? I sorta need that for my games...concerning AmiKit..somehow I managed to get the setting I wanted..surprisingly and now I have 26 MB of Free memory in additional to my chip ram which I believe is more than enough for most apps/games. But the real problem is the remaining partition is not viewable. I missing complete 13 GB.
 

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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2013, 08:46:41 PM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;729319
Since u r going all hardcore Amiga Maniac :) u should consider to have 4 boot partitions:
1. ClassicWB
2. AmikitOS
3. Plain OS 3.x
4. Whatever else u think of later

That way u can have fun trying out everything.  Be a total distroslut :D

The only problem I have is I cannot see the remaining 13 GB. What I will not do is flood this sweet website's forum with my woes and wees I will wait patiently until I receive my WiFi adapter that supports WPA/WPA2 security so i can hook my A1200 online in WiFi then  I will ask support in the Amiga IRC community itself. There are couple of more things I need to ask and help optimize. Like for example, when I use ScummVM AGA 060 and run the game Full Throttle in PCMCIA card the FPS is not so smooth. The intro cut scene is very slow and jumping in frames heavily, the game is playable but the cut scene is slow and not moving in correct frame rate...so I am wondering is it because I have not configured Apollo correctly even though I follow's Lurch advice. The only thing I removed is the Ftext because it is causing a problem in my font...so there are things like that I want to discuss live in IRC client. I know I can use a PC for that but I would rather wait for my WiFI card and use it in my A1200 instead. Other than  AmiKit is a bit slow performance only because maybe it is using 30% CPU I do not know or maybe because my card is not optimized correctly, it can play MP3 sweetly, video plays it in a good frame rate, sound good but still sound a bit echoing and dragging. Maybe I need to convert from stero sound to mono to get better performance. It can run games sweetly I have not tried strife yet so if it can run strife with no problem I should be fine.
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Re: I bought the Apollo 1260 @ 32 MB RAM @ 80 Mhz!!
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 18, 2013, 03:50:13 AM »
Quote from: Lurch;729600
Have full throttle running really smooth. It does hit the HDD hard though so needs fast access to it.

I have it running through a fastata so not sure what setup you are using?

That is my problem. I don't have FastATA at all so that is why it is not running really smooth at all with me. That also means if I actually have FastATA installed I can watch movies in HAM8 as smooth as a Quad Processor 2 Ghz with 4 GB RAM running Windows 7 would run an AVI movie in a PC. But because I don't have FastATA it is HITTING ME HARD IN ALL sorts of performance, movies and AGA games ported by NovaCoder. That is also means if DOSBox AGA would succeed in running smoothly but require the maximum accelerator it would require me to buy FastATA fast or else my Apollo 1260 running at 80 Mhz would do squad for me.

Hey Lurch I have a little problem. When I ran AmigaSYSAGA with OS 3.5 which prevented the HDtools from working my Amiga runs 100% As soon as I upgraded to OS 3.9 and all the icons returned into their chiney beauty and HDTools works again and my last partition which is 15 GB showed again where before it was not visible after booting in my AmigaSYSAGA in 30 seconds to 40 seconds the screen turns gray and I have to reboot the Amiga. Ones I reboot it (with software failure message) it returns back again to normal and after 30 to 40 seconds the screen turns gray again. I do know it have to do with driver issue or something resident in memory that is causing this conflict due to version incompatibility or what not. What advice do you have in this regard?