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Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« on: February 17, 2012, 07:50:25 PM »
Hey guys,

I am deciding to cut down on the expense on expanding my A1200 to buy SAM 460 instead. The intention is just to upgrade my Amiga 1200 to have 64 MB of RAM to be able to play games better and being 030 it is 100% compatible for games and I like it that way.

However, I am deciding to buy SAM 460 AmigaOS 4.1 to replace my PC as I am not using my PC for gaming, I am using it for browsing the internet, watching videos and checking emails that is pretty much what I can do in the AmigaOS 4.1 with ease.

Advantage of doing this change:

1) No viruses ever on my computer
2) No more stupid malware
3) Faster speed boot time and response time to applications
4) save in my electric bill as I am using 400+watt power supply but the SAM 460 need only 100 watt to run. Saving a lot in heat and energy.

5) I will turn my PC on only for the purpose for software development and developing games for xBox 360 and consoles

All my gaming is in my xBox 360 and Amiga 1200 anyways, so I do not need PC for that.

The only question I need to ask is what is the best power supply for SAM 460 and direct me to a good site to buy casing, I like normal Sata 1 HD where I can buy that.

Can I use my pc keyboard and mouse to use it on SAM 460 or it needs a special keyboard or mouse and thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 10:22:20 PM »
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They all use standard USB keyboards and mice. I have a Logitech G 19 keyboard and G 9 mouse on my SAM. Any ATX PSU will do, any SATA HD and optical drive will work just find. Root around locally and find good buys on the PSU, HD and opt drive.
 
If you plan to use the SAM for playing legacy games or running legacy applications without a hitch, and without an emulator - you will be disappointed. Just a disclaimer - I had a fellow buy a SAM 440 after I told him how much I enjoyed mine, only to have him curse me out when he got it he tried to one click run programs from 1987 on it and only got reaper messages and lockups. A SAM is by no means a replacement for a A1200 if you are into gaming or just "expecting all Amiga SW to work" - other emu platforms are cheaper, or just use legacy HW.
 
As for boot times, my Win7 PC boots just as quick as my SAM with OS4.1u4, both running SSDs.

I am in no way intending to replace A1200 with SAM 460. Like I said it is intended to replace my PC and not my A1200. I play games on my A1200 and on the PC I run a video player to play shows and movies, like duckman etc while I play on my A1200. I come home and click firefox and check my gmail account and banking account and come to amig.org and youtube. That is pretty much what I do on my PC. I use utorrent to download movies and stuff and I burn on DVD that is all I use my PC for. I can do ALL of that on AmigaOS 4.1 SAM 460 easy.
 
As for games I play them only on xBox 360 and on my Amiga 1200 (that is why I need to upgrade my Amiga 1200 from 16 MB to 64 MB). If I am in need to develop applications using .NET I will use my laptop and do laptop upgrades if need be.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 12:25:25 AM »
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Aye - the same thing that makes you mostly immune to stuff like viruses and malware on more obscure platforms, it also turns around and bites you in the rear due to general usability in regards to the stuff we expect out of modern computers.  The SW just isn't there.

I understand the horrors of being an Amiga user. However, I have my Windows 7 laptop to browse sites where my new SAM 460 is not going to be able to display but for all my daily use of movies, mp3 player, viewing comic strips BLAH BLAH BLAH I would rather use that on an AmigaOS 4.1 being safe from virus and malware and I will place all my personal data there and also keep it as a safe device to store my programs and applications I am developing and I will use my laptop for other things and software developments and stuff like that.

OK? ok.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 04:37:25 PM »
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"1) No viruses ever on my computer"

Neither on Linux or OSX :P

"2) No more stupid malware"

Same as above :)

"3) Faster speed boot time and response time to applications"

What applications?

"4) save in my electric bill as I am using 400+watt power supply but the SAM 460 need only 100 watt to run. Saving a lot in heat and energy."

You can also buy low consuming x86 motherboards which are way more powerful and useful than a SAM460 at a fraction of the price.

If maybe you said "I want to buy a SAM460 because it will let me run Amiga OS4.1" I would understand (albeit at a very expensive price), but none of the reasons you mentioned warrant spending 1000+ Euro.

Just in my very humble opinion of course. =D

Maybe you are right guys. OK. Then what I will do is then save my money up and buy NatAmi then and sell my A1200 when NatAmi is out as the final and ultimate "classic" Amiga hardware upgrades. I will use my PC for all my personal and development reasons and I have not upgraded my PC for over 3 years now and for my usage I am in no need for upgrading for a long time. So my money is indeed saved a lot in hardware expenses, I can enjoy spending on things that benefit me the most: bills, family, games (software), etc.

Thanks all for your genuine advice.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 07:21:45 PM »
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SAMs are not Amigas, when will people understand this? Probably never :lol:


Is the new AmigaOne X1000 then an Amiga or it stands the same probability as Sam460? Thanks in advance.

Hey if I upgrade my Amiga 1200 to Apollo 1260 would it break any gaming comapibility or I would have the same gaming experience as the 030 cpu? Off topic here.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2012, 11:33:10 PM »
If I buy the Apollo 1260 would I be able to run all WHDLOAD games with no problem? Would it effect my gaming compatibility? Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 09:38:48 PM »
Hey guys? Is this the mac mini I need to buy to run MorphOS? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Mini-Desktop-A1103-1-42Ghz-80GB-512MB-/170784571865?pt=Apple_Desktops&hash=item27c38dc1d9
 
Another question, if I do buy this mac mini can I just download morphOS on this machien directly and install it on the machine right away without any necessary hacks, emulators, etc? Would it install stand-alone like linux, AmigaOS 4.1 on SAM,etc?
 
Can I just download the MorphOS ISO image, burn it on a CD, place the CD into this mac mini, boot mac mini and bang she installs the morphOS right on the HD?
 
If the answer is yes then I will try MorphOS right away and if i do like it, I will register it also right away. Thanks in advance.  If it does work I will turn Mac mini as a morphOS only OS.
 

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Re: Buying SAM 460 to replace my PC
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 09:45:17 PM »
Nnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiicceeeee buying it here we come!!!!!!!!!!