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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« on: March 23, 2004, 03:26:27 PM »
@downix

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Don't be too sure there. The promethius I have happens to have a 8139 on it.
It is nothing interesting to have the not-working card fitted in the PCI slot :)
 

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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2004, 03:50:34 PM »
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Busmastering, TBA :-P
The next announcement about the Prometheus busmastering? :-D

Prometheus producer was well known for advertising not-existing Prometheus features and not-working Prometheus drivers. Now Anachronism/Redrumloa goes the same way.

Prometheus busmastering has always existed in the Prometheus advertisements. Unfortunately, it has existed in the advertisements ONLY. In the Prometheus hardware this feature has NEVER worked correctly.

1) In five days will be exactly THREE YEARS from the first announcement (from March 29, 2001) about the Prometheus busmastering. You can read there:

'Real transfer rates between PCI cards - up to 120 MB/s.
Together with the "Prometheus" card we bundle a CD-ROM with:
Drivers for a sound card and a network card.'

As in the Prometheus transfers between the PCI cards (= busmastering) do not work, the real transfer rates are rather nearby 0MB/s than 120MB/s. Also this sound driver is still a fiction.    

2) The second official announcement about the Prometheus busmastering and about not-existing-up-to-today drivers is from January 8, 2002. You can read there:

'From now on, "Prometheus" can operate more PCI cards, and especially Fast Ethernet cards, TV tuners and soundcards. The drivers for these cards will appear very quickly after we do the upgrade. The first one will probably be available in this month.'


3) The current status of the Prometheus hardware and Prometheus driver support was accurate described in the Prometheus ML. You can read there:

'There is no working on prometheus drivers for usb pci cards.
There is no working DMA support and Busmastering.
Also OpenPCI is not working too..

Still only Voodoo3 and Ethernet 10M/Bit are supported !'    
 

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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2004, 06:01:26 PM »
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Seems to work to me. Unless you're saying that telepathic powers are typing this into aorg.
You do not distinguish reality from dreams.

Last time (in the 'Re: PCI for genuine 4000T' thread) you insisted on that 200 Polish zl, for which Grzegorz Kraszewski (Prometheus designer) was offering the Prometheus boards, was equal 160 EUR. As I proved you, 200 zl was equal 45.18 EUR.
 

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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2004, 06:50:01 PM »
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Though aside from all that, it would still be interesting to see Promo/Mediator 4000D side by side comparisons in the same machine, though I doubt anyone has ever or would ever do it.
I found the website of someone, who has Prometheus and Mediator A4000D.

He describes his opinion about both PCI busboards at www.skolbe.de/PCI.html and at www.skolbe.de/PCI1.html
The sites are in German so you need to use the translation service e.g. http://babelfish.altavista.com.
 

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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2004, 07:50:37 PM »
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He doesn't benchmark either of them, nevermind against each other, so its pretty useless.
The only benchmark comparison between Prometheus and Mediator I found in the Prometheus ML. See here.
 

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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2004, 02:12:36 PM »
@NightShade737

I just reread your first post:

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Now the reason I am torn is the fast that I would like to keep my ISA slots as well though, and buying a Mediator would kick out all my ISA slots.
You can keep your ISA slots using Mediator 3/4000T.

This Mediator is installed in one of the Zorro III slots. It doesn't have to be installed in the lowest Zorro III slot. When you install it in higher Zorro III slot you will save the space for your ISA cards. More info about this Mediator you can find here: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45311
 

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Re: Mediator vs Prometheus
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2004, 02:54:19 PM »
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I had seen that one before, but couldn't quite work out where the hell it was supposed to fit in. Does the Zorro slot on the board go through and plug in to a Zorro slot below? If so this may be the solution I need... though I would need to find out how far up it would go and if it would actually fit...
Ask Elbox. They are very friendly and quickly reply to all technical inquiries.