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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #14 from previous page: November 19, 2003, 12:39:54 AM »
@Targhan

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So, you are now saying that my Mediator driver prevents me from CHOOSING another USB solution for my A1200?!
You can always use old drivers.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2003, 12:42:05 AM »
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I'm tempted to reply but you obviously have lost the sense for reallity or are just plain dumb, so it won't make sense to talk to you anymore.
Thank you for you kind words. I'm glad not to hear from you any more.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2003, 01:33:23 AM »
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Hardly. Not only are you intent on damaging a developer,
No, this is not my intention.
 
It is Hodges who tries to damage his own reputation and his own product with the childish game, he plays against Spider users and against Elbox.

According to me, such behaviour as his should be publicly ostracised.

Hodges did not prepare drivers for Spider. Pawel Stypula, a developer from Elbox did the job. The drivers were prepared on Hodges's request. Now Hodges refusing sales of keys for Mediator users is trying to DESTROY the work of another developer.

At the same time, Hodges tries to destroy the only USB 2.0 controller for Amiga and to help selling out ancient USB 1.1 cards made by his friend from E3B. Sure, same Pegasos fans applause Hodges. They are not really happy with Pegasos having only USB 1.1 support while Spider is a USB 2.0 controller.

Games like that of Hodges' make the Amiga situation as bad as it is now. Sure, for you it's only pleasure - you are not bothering about a computer which you do not have.  

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but you troll by posting 6 replies to every one post.
It seems that you have serious problems with counting. Could you show me these 6 replies of mine to ONE post?

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And why would I do that? I not me who hates Chris Hodges, it's you. It's not ArakAttack users who will not get support with Poseidon, it's Elbox customers.
Why would you do that?
Maybe you posted this 'how-to-crack-Poseidon' guide in order to convince Hodges to finally begin Poseidon registration for ArakAttack users. Now he has no choice, if he does not want to lose money he should very quickly start the Poseidon registration for the ArakAttack users. It looks like Amithlon funs have much more 'effective methods' to convince Hodges to support their platform than Mediator users have ever had.

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I don't have a Spider, since I wouldn't touch any Elbox product with a bargepole, and I don't use ArakAttack as I have no need for USB on the few occasions I use AmigaOS.
As someone completely not 'interested in using the Poseidon stack'  you have very much to talk about. :-)

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Really? Shall we dig up the way they broke the licensing conditions on the P96 dev kit? Or the way they sold the Spider II with "Amithlon support" without telling the general public that they couldn't use it yet? Or the recriminations and name calling they indulged in with Hyperion before agreeing a deal over the Warp3D drivers for Voodoo 3 cards? Or the way they claimed thay had Voodoo 4 and 5 specific drivers when they were only Voodoo 3 drivers that worked with Voodoo 4 and 5 but without the advanced features being supported? Or the viruses they put in their software and the LIES they told when denying the existence of those trojans? Or how about the long list of drivers they said they had in development years ago which have never materialised.
1.  Elbox wrote their own hardware drivers for graphic cards to work with the P96 graphic system. P96 authors did not help Elbox in writing these drivers. Elbox never had any contract with them. What Elbox did in this case is legal and honest. From each point of view it is much more fair than what other companies did with P96.

Maybe you prefer the Ateo way?
I heard that they ordered P96 drivers from P96 team for their Pixel64 card. The Picasso team developed these drivers but Ateo never paid.

2. As far as Spider Amithlon support is concern your accusations are your own fantasies. I remember this amiga.org thread where you were so angry at Elbox that VMC placed on-line their new powerpci.library a few days AFTER Elbox had announced the Spider II Amithlon support.
It so funny that in your eyes Elbox is responsible for everything happening in the world. :-)
It is even more funny taking into account that, as you wrote, you are not interested in USB support at all :-)

3. About Elbox and Hyperion story: Elbox and Hyperion are serious companies. They negotiated the Warp3D contract longer than e.g. Matay did. But remember that Matay do not exist as a company any more, so it is not the best example. Finally both Elbox and Hyperion met their contract obligations. I even heard that Elbox was the only company which paid Warp 3D OEM bills.

BTW As far as I see you are an Amithlon fun.
Do you know that Amithlon does not have Warp 3D support at all?
Do you know that it is because Amithlon authors/editors have not agreed to pay Hyperion for the Warp 3D OEM licence like Elbox did?

Why you do not cry in this case?!

4. Voodoo 4 and Voodoo 5 support: Elbox have their own P96 drivers SPECIFIC for the Voodoo 4 and Voodoo5 cards. Warp 3D drivers for Voodoo 3 support Voodoo 4 and Voodoo 5 thanks to proper initialization of Voodoo4/5 cards by Elbox 2D drivers. Elbox clearly informed about this, e.g. here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amiga-Prometheus/message/1057

5. About viruses and trojans: You should learn a little bit more what are the meanings of these words.

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You'd need to extract your head from your rectum before you could see any of that, and we all know that's asking too much of you.
Interesting ideas. Are you practising some yoga games? It must be very hard on your body when you want to write in this position :-)
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2003, 02:16:08 AM »
@xeron

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1. Tjaoz bought Poseidon, but has been denied updates. This is not illegal, most products are sold that way by default. I am a registered AmIRC 2.x user. I would have to pay again to get AmIRC 3.x. This is legal. The fact that other Poseidon users are granted free updates is a matter of courtesy, NOT law.
You are wrong.

Hodges invalidated my keyfile in the publicly available update of the Poseidon stack, for which I paid him 6 months earlier.

Even if he has written in the licence that he is not obliged to make bugfixes, if he is making such bugfixes in public, he must not ban access to them to selected clients according to his whims.

What Hodges has done is discrimination, illegal in European law.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2003, 02:19:03 AM »
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As long as nobody has these "new" drivers, I consider everything Rat says as FUD.

How can you know who has them and who has not? Want to get them from some 'friendly user'?
I have them, and I know that I'm not the only one who received them.

BTW. FUD is exacly what you spread about Elbox.
You are a master in FUD.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2003, 02:23:47 AM »
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Oh, you mean instead of just apologising to the customers, which would have fixed everything. Way to go Elbox.
I do not expect apology from Elbox.
I want apology from Chris Hodges.

I'm sure that many Mediator users feel the same.

But you probably are not a Mediator user, so you need apology from Elbox...
For what? Lack of USB 2.0 support for your platform?
 
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Elbox broke the agreement, when they broke the law.
Sorry, the law does not work in this way that it is you who decides who broke and who did not break the law. The only place where breaking of the law may be found out is the court.

Public accusing of someone running commercial business of breaking law, in order to harm his reputation, is slander.

You have just done that.

According to your own theory, you are already guilty!

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Repeat after me...
"What Elbox did is ILLEGAL"
"What Elbox did is ILLEGAL"
"What Elbox did is ILLEGAL"

Replace Elbox with T_Bone and repeat many times.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2003, 02:27:22 AM »
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> Elbox removed the code and things were ok for a while,
> then CH decided out of the blue that he didn't want to
> support Elbox any more.

Out of the blue? No, he gave Elbox a choice, either
The choice?
All terrorist go this way. They give someone a chance to meet their demand. When someone accepts this, they offer new demands.

Hodges behaves like a terrorist who always wants something new. Read Hodges' 'soap opera' carefully and you will see it.

I wrote about this Hodges-terrorist behaviour in the Mediator ML here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amiga-Mediator/message/16577
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2003, 02:33:02 AM »
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I think he just wanted them to admit they were wrong.
Are you sure that's all?

Here is the original public set of 'requests' placed by Hodges:

a) admit, that the code was in their driver,
b) admit, that they have constantly lied to the users,
d) have placed a public apology for the first time in their life,
c) and have removed any malicious code.

Please note that Hodges publicly release these 'requests' AFTER Elbox sent out new driver versions.

I wrote about this timing here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amiga-Mediator/message/16577
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2003, 02:34:50 AM »
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They had NO contract with VFD...

:-)
So, what is this press release about?

in the VFD site: http://www.vgr.com/mediator/pressrelease1.txt  
in the Elbox site: http://elbox.com/news_00_07_24.html
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2003, 02:45:06 AM »
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Actually, if you have truely read the soap opera, the stop of registrations was NOT an issue about apologies for the RDB issue (except for implicitely calling me a liar), but their denial to clearly state on their websites and advertisments that the software necessary to use the Spider card (Poseidon USB Stack) is NOT shipped with the Spider and is NOT registered, thus potential buyers being maliciously deceived (and me getting mails from angry users).
Yes, a real terrorist like you, always has new demands!

Now you want to say that Elbox does not inform that a user has to buy Poseidon to use Spider in Amiga.

You are of course well aware that your accusation that Elbox does not inform about it is untrue.

With your lies you are trying to mislead those who do not care about visiting the Elbox website to check the facts.
You lied similarly in this discussion in amiga.org.

Elbox informs very precisely in the Spider II page about what you need to use Spider:
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Requirements:
- One free PCI slot
- Mediator Multimedia CD (for Mediator based systems)
- Poseidon stack (for Amithlon and Mediator based systems)
- Windows 2000 or Windows XP (for PC systems)
- Mac X OS (for Mac systems)
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From this it is clear that apart from one free PCI slot you have to have a Poseidon to work with Amiga or Amithlon, Windows 2000 (or XP) for work with PC, and MacX OS for work with Mac. Neither a free PCI slot nor any of USB stacks or operating systems with a USB stack are not bundled with Spider. And Amiga computer and AmigaOS are not bundled, either.

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Moreover, they were promoting their product with the features that it does not have per se, but only with Poseidon installed. In fact, they copy & pasted the poseidon feature list. I told them to remove it (copyright violation).
You are really funny.

You are all the time writing about the same text:

'Note: The Poseidon USB Stack is a software solution that unleashes the possibilities of the Universal Serial Bus (USB) and the devices with USB interface, ranging from mice, keyboards, tablets, joysticks, printers, scanners, webcams, digicams, flash card readers, zip drives, floppy disk drives, harddisks, memory sticks, ethernet adapters, scanners and audio adapters to less common things like power supplies, GPS location devices or finger print readers. '

I do not know who first wrote this text, you or Elbox Press Dept, but it was included in your bilateral Press Announcement: http://www.elbox.com/news_02_09_11B.html.

It means that this note is the official information about Poseidon, which you agreed with Elbox. It must be clear that they use a text agreed with you and are not writing their own stories about Poseidon. No copyright restrictions apply here, obviously. This type of texts are not covered by copyright law.

By the way, this text details more USB standard features than the features of your stack. I have not heard that Poseidon offers support for
power supplies, GPS location devices or finger print readers.

Or maybe you are so mad that you think you have copyright on the USB standard features?

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They treated me like sh*t.  
Maybe in that sense only that they try to keep distans from you :-)

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They even claimed that they did not need a registered copy of Poseidon to develop their drivers,
In the 'soap opera' you yourself are stating in one of the messages to Elbox that the keys are not necessary for developement of new drivers only, but even to their tests!

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thus never registered it.

You have given free developer keys to them, right?

 
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Stopping the registration process was my only way to attract attention to this issue.
You behave like a child.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2003, 02:47:05 AM »
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DCE offered him a contract to do something under payment and he accepted it.

Let's call a spade a spade:
DCE bribed Mariak to not support Mediator.
 

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Re: just saw the worrying Poseidon news
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2003, 03:07:34 AM »
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The person who posted the how-to-crack guide is not an Amithlon "fun" and is most likely not a user either. His name is certainly not Dan Gaines and he is not in the UK either, despite the e-mail address used.

The person in question joined the mailing list less than a week before posting the crack, and that was the only post he ever made. It was cross posted to the amithlonopen, amithlon and Mediator mailing lists. The purpose was simply to damage Chris Hodges and nothing else.

So, considering that you tell lies about what happened and try to blame genuine users, and considering that "Dan Gaines" posted in bad English which showed it was not his native laguage,
You do not have any problems to meet all the above conditions. What is the problem for a native English speaker in writing a message with language mistakes? Your explanations show more and more that you could have been involved in the 'how-to-crack-poseidon' guide.

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As for Hodges making Poseidon available with ArakAttack, this was always going to happen in good time, as was posted by the ArakAttack author when he released the driver.

ArakAttack has been available for some time in the VMC website, and the possibility of registering Poseidon for ArakAttack users is still nonexistent. What was the sense of making ArrakAttack available before the possibility of registering Poseidon? Is Poseidon not necessary for ArakAttack operation. Maybe you wanted to force Hodges to stop delaying the Poseidon registration? Or maybe you even wanted to force him to provide OEM licences for ArakAttak?

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As far as I'm concerned Elbox are a bunch of virus writers, no different at all from the scum who write all those Outlook worms. It doesn't matter why they did it, only that they did.

You think Elbox is sending you viruses?
You should see a doctor. :-)

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You do not have entitlement to Poseidon 2. End of story. You paid for Poseidon v1 and that's what you got. Hodges never "switched off" your key, he just removed it from the list of keys supported by the updates. Unless you have a written guarantee that you are entitled to free updates for life, you have no case.
(..)
Now Elbox using their updated drivers to disable competitors' hardware from existing users is another matter. That is unquestionably an abuse of consumer rights, and if I was an affected customer I would definitely make an official complaint against them.
:-)

You change your viewpoint very fast!
Changed position for writing this message? Where is your head now?

Maybe you should write:

Now Elbox just removed E3B users from the list of users supported by the updates of their software. Unless you have a written guarantee that you are entitled to free updates for life.