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Offline tjaoz

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« on: September 08, 2004, 06:42:47 PM »
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Interesting. According to this web site, the drivers are "100% finished under Miami and MiamiDX", they are version 1.0, and there is a link to download them. I am reluctant to buy an RTL8029 card when I can get an 8139 for the same price. But I'm not sure who to believe... are the drivers 100% finished, or are they only betas?

Go for RTL8029. Only this card works in Prometheus.

OpenPCI drivers for RTL8139 were ready long time ago. RTL8139 cards with OpenPCI drivers were reported as working stable on the Mediator busboards over two years ago.

The very well known problem with the Prometheus is that Prometheus has the serious hardware bug in the support of the PCI busmastering. After a few transmissions between PCI cards (initialized by the PCI busmaster) the transmission hangs.

It means that cards like: Fast Ethernet, sound, USB, TV tuner cannot be used in Prometheus.

If you have Prometheus you should know that only working PCI cards are gfx and 10Mbps Ethernet cards - these two kind of PCI cards do not require busmastering.
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2004, 07:36:07 PM »
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Welcome back rat.


Please stop this personal attacks. I think that you do not need to follows here the lack of culture behaviour of one German guy.

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I guess you also think the Pegasos and all PC motherboards has a serious hardware bug in support of PCI busmastering? The driver does the same thing on a Pegasos and Amithlon.


No, you have not right. Reread my comment.

I wrote about Mediator/Prometheus OpenPCI driver. Not about driver for Amithlon or Pegasos. Amithlon and Pegasos require completely different control of the busmaster interface of the RTL8139 card. In Amithlon/Pegasos busmaster directs data over the PCI brige to the main system memory. In case of Mediator/Prometheus data are directed to the SDRAM/SGRAM of the Voodoo card.

I do not follows info about Amithlon or Pegasos driver versions. OpenPCI author wrote RTL8139 drivers on Amiga. And on Amiga (with Mediator) they work stable, period.

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Oh yeah, and there is no OpenPCI for Mediator, try again.


It is, but not public. It is because OpenPCI for Mediator is illegal. You can read about it here:
http://www.vgr.com/mediator/press16-Apr-03.txt
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 07:46:38 PM »
@Brian,

Have you read my post, to which you refer?

I wrote about RTL8139 and RTL8029 support. I did not advertise anything.
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2004, 08:41:46 PM »
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That is bs.

bs?
So, you want to tell that all these positive reports from the guy (Morgoth), who tested the OpenPCI RTL8139 driver in Mediator were fake?

And all these messages from the OpenPCI author (Titan) on the Mediator ML, where he wrote how fast RTL8139 works in Mediator with his OpenPCI 8139 driver, were fake too?
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 08:52:38 PM »
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We don't need to be reminded of what cards run on Mediator but not on Prometheus yet.

I didn't write "what cards run on Mediator but not on Prometheus yet." I wrote what PCI cards cannnot be used in Prometheus due to the bug in the Prometheus hardware.

I listed here only the most popular PCI cards (Fast Ethernet, sound, USB, TV tuner), which need busmastering to work. You can add more PCI cards to this list: SCSI controllers, UltraATA (33/66/100/133) controllers, FireWire/IEE1394 controllers, all Gigabit Ethernet controllers, PCI MPEG video hardware decoders. All these also require busmastering to work, so they also cannot be used in Prometheus.
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2004, 09:16:19 PM »
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Yeah right, Morgoth...is that a character from Lord of the Rings or something?

No. This one: http://www.tbs-software.com/morgoth/contact.html

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Anyway, I wish a moderator spots your constant pile of lies and misinformation and bans you from this site, once and for all. Then you can visit amigakrakow.org and post all you want about how Mediator outperforms every other object in this universe, and beyond.

If my posts are too complicated for you and you cannot understand what I write simply do not read them and stop trolling.
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2004, 06:38:57 PM »
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@elbox pr office

Are you joining the Elbox-phobia mob? :-)

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The driver had some serious bugs that were fixed after Mediator support was banned by Elbox, ergo the driver could not have worked stable then. So yes, you claiming the driver was running stable over two years go is bs.

I understand you throwing yourself upon me as the Titan's driver for RTL8139 started working stable few months later than two years ago?

You are funny. If there was a serious error in the OpenPCI driver for RTL8139 in July 2002, throw your anger at Titan. He at that time (over 2 years ago) announced in public that his driver for RTL8139 worked in his Mediator stable, though too slow.

Getting back to the point: How do you explain that RTL8139 cards with the OpenPCI driver since many months have been working stable in Mediator, and are not working in Prometheus?

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Yes you tjaoz, liar.
(...) nothing like this liar and cheater tjaoz.

Why don't you start thinking about psycho treatment?
 

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Re: Prometheus network cards
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2004, 06:44:22 PM »
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Prometheus with the latest firmware has working DMA.

And Individuals' Buddha supports PIO-3 and PIO-4. ;-)

Why are you cheating your customers?

Do you want to show that hardware offered by you is so superior but Amiga developers are stupid and cannot write stable working drivers?

You know well that the developers' docs for Prometheus has been available in the Matay site for over 3 years. If the Prometheus' hardware allowed __stable___ work of PCI cards in the busmaster mode, some drivers for Fast Ethernet or sound or USB or TV tuners would have come up long ago.