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Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« on: May 06, 2018, 07:48:22 PM »
Has anyone tried a Sonnet in an Amithlon machine?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2018, 10:12:13 AM »
Quote from: Kronos;839040

Bout having a Sonnet-PPC in an MorphOS-NG running x86-64, just start MorphOS3.x in QEMU and be done with it.


I'd love to but the MorphOS Team aren't exactly helpful to the QEMU guys in getting it running.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2018, 12:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Motormouth;839034
I had several issues getting mine stable, initially issues with the mediator itself that elbox fixed, and then issues with warp3d mostly due to bad memory in a voodoo card.   Now it is rock solid, not really any issues with the Sonnet itself, or the sonnet project software.

As long as you have the correct pci.library from elbox, powerpc.library from jenkins, and a video card properly installed, the sonnet should work.

I agree the biggest limitation is the number of software titles that can be run.


If I understand this correctly, Elbox pci.library is needed rather than openpci.library.

So a wrapper would need creating to use a Sonnet in an Amithlon machine?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2018, 03:10:14 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;839043
I wasn't implying to run a QEMUed MorphOS under Win/Linux/OSX but using as legacy support in case of an x86-64 native MorphOS-NG.

It's also no secret that at least one developer had MorphOS running in QEMU years ago, but it was decided to not support such things.


That was a long time ago. I'm referring to the Hungarian guy who asked for help on his attempt of cloning G4 PowerMac hardware with QEMU not so long ago and got told where to go.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2018, 03:29:04 PM »
Quote from: lou_dias;839045
Wouldn't porting OS4's bootloader to WiiU custom firmware be simpler?

https://hackinformer.com/2016/12/12/wiiu-rednand-cfw-tutorial/


You still trying to flog that dead horse after all these years?
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2018, 05:42:22 PM »
Quote from: lou_dias;839053
Does the truth hurt to hear?
I guess I'll have to be content with Linux...
https://gitlab.com/linux-wiiu/linux-wiiu#wii-u-linux


If the OS4, AROS or MorphOS devs were interested in porting to the Wii they'd have already done it.

If you want it so bad then put your money where your mouth is and pay for the development costs.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2018, 08:47:36 PM »
Quote from: lou_dias;839057
Oh ... are you one of those people that thinks the WiiU is the Wii with a new controller?


Are you going to pay for this port that you so desperately want?

Supply and demand.

There's no demand.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2018, 09:33:36 PM »
Quote from: lou_dias;839081
Are you talking to me or the OP?   HA!

20 Million WiiU's running a triple-core PPC @ 1.24 Ghz for about $150 or you can spend hundreds of dollars on a card that's not much more powerful than a Gamecube...  Makes sense.

By the way, there isn't much in the way of porting needing to be done.  Mostly just UBOOT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_U-Boot
...much like MONA very little work would be required.  "Drivers" amount to calling the libraries that already exist within the machine's ROM.

I know Amigans aren't used to getting alot of feature for little money and when you do, you make sure that you complain heavily (ie.. Vampire2)...

You know what I'm wrong.  I don't want:
2GB of RAM
Out-of-order execution PowerPC based cores
45 nanometer process technology
IBM silicon on insulator (SOI) technology
Three cores at 1.243125 GHz
Symmetric multiprocessing with MESI/MERSI support
Each core can output up to 4 instructions per clock using superscalar parallelism.
32-bit integer unit
64-bit floating-point (or 2× 32-bit SIMD, often found under the denomination "paired singles")
A total of 3 MB of Level 2 cache in an unusual configuration.[16]
Core 0: 512 KB, core 1: 2 MB, core 2: 512 KB
4 stage pipeline
7 stage pipeline - FP
6 Execution Units per core (18 EUs total)
Die size: 4.74 mm × 5.85 mm = 27.73 mm^2
4 USB ports, 802.11N wifi, bluetooth... dual-layer BluRay drive...
...and I surely don't want a 550Mhz core Radeon Latte GPU...

I don't want any of that for less than $5000!!!!
How dare that be available for <$200!!!  What a travesty!


I'll ask again.

Are you going to pay for this port that you've been begging for since 2005?

I would say ask for SVN access then port it yourself but it's written in that " inferior" language C and not your beloved Visual Basic so that rules that out.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2018, 09:40:00 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;839086
Yes Kronos, I wanted our developers to eat up time supporting something about as powerful as the backup system I bought from redrumloa last year (not)!


Some history for you Jim. Though I warn you it's a long and harrowing insight into insanity. Highly amusing in places though lol

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13903
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2018, 09:44:55 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;839098
@lou_dias

Start by porting AROS to it then you will have a case to make for the technical side. Unfortunately porting a commercial OS to a commercial platform is a totally different problem.

Otherwise it's all just wishlisting. Id like OS4 and MorphOS porting to run on my deluxe ten flavour ice cream making machine and its faster than the washing machine.


You could port both in a weekend if you weren't so obsessed with that inferior language C.

May I suggest FoxPro?
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2018, 09:46:10 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;839102
Dear God, it really is 2005 again. Make it stop.


Even Mike Bouma is back, saw him spouting his sycophantic drivel on MorphOS threads over at osnews recently.

Groundhog day!
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2018, 02:05:39 PM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;839254
Where did you hear you need to make a donation to get access to ARM builds of AROS?
This idea is absolutely bizarre and completely incorrect.
How did you even come to this baffling conclusion, or who told you and how did they come up with this creative idea?
Want to download AROS for ARM? Simple, go to aros.org and download the latest nightly ARM build. It's as easy as that. No compiling needed, no money needed, just download from the site.

Far from important, but Im somewhat curious where all this garbage misinformation comes from. It's clear as day what the truth is. You just need to check the website.

To be fair to Lou, there only appears to be a Linux hosted armhf download available on the arose website, not the native Pi version.

Though I suspect he's referring to Pascal's Aeros distro for Pi here.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2018, 04:44:29 PM »
Wrong thread doh!
« Last Edit: May 13, 2018, 04:51:04 PM by nicholas »
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Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2018, 01:52:46 PM »
Quote from: kolla;839270
http://www.aros.org/nightly.php

Only Linux hosted for armhf there Kolla, no Pi native build.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2018, 07:44:36 PM »
Quote from: kolla;839303
Hosted is just as native as non-hosted, but that is beside the point here, it was this hosted build that claimed to require donations.

Running it hosted is not the same as running it on bare metal. There's always a performance hit.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini