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Offline nicholas

Re: Using later libs and drivers with earlier WB releases
« on: January 07, 2017, 02:46:34 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819190
Must admit, scratched my head an awful lot about this. Sounds like it can't work at all, crazy idea...

... actually, it does work, because that's how 3.5 and 3.9 were written. More specifically, that's how the BOOPsi dev tool was used to develop various bits of it.

https://www.codewiz.org/projects/amiga/V44_Changes/V44_Changes_guide/node0012.html

Pulling the same trick might work on earlier releases (2.04 and earlier) MIGHT work in some cases but was never tested by developers.

So, there you go. Ripping out drivers and libaries from the exec base and installing later ones isn't an issue, usually. On 3 and later Amigas.

Whether it works to the extent of using AmigaOS 4 and later 68K devices drivers on earlier Kickstarted Amigas, good question. I would have thought more likely to work than libraries, but could just work fine on everything.

If you look closely at the list, you'll notice the same "problem" files listed as encountered in many "help me" threads - asl.library, icon,library, Picasso95, scsi.device, etc. It's like the developers already knew which ones were going to cause issues later on, for people that hadn't upgraded.

https://www.codewiz.org/projects/amiga/V44_Changes/V44_Changes_guide/node0016.html

Erm, where do I start?

BOOPSI is a runtime classes API for Intuition, it has nothing whatsoever to do with "loading libs and drivers".
« Last Edit: January 07, 2017, 03:16:18 PM by nicholas »
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Offline nicholas

Re: Using later libs and drivers with earlier WB releases
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2017, 10:56:52 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819296
I don't think you understand. BOOPSI had a front end. Not just technical listings or data definitions. At least, I'm pretty sure that's what I saw and reviewed. It wasn't a piece of source code, it was a floppy disk supplied application. It let you  create data sets in a graphical way. Not an "official" CBM dev tool at the time, 3rd party to begin with. A lot of people liked it. Still haven't found what I remember, so I'll keep looking. But you could use it to define any kind of Object oriented data set. It was very flexible, made typing in data and keyboards usage seem very, very crude.

I guess there might be references to Boopsi in the early Fred Fish collection. Perhaps the original source if it really did start as a student project. It it isn't there, it was a commercial application release initially. I honestly can't remember, but I certainly did not have the privalege of reviewing dev tools for operating systems that hadn't been released yet. There would have been no point in doing that. I evaluated stuff for end users only. CBM Dev tools, books, WB2, even 2.1, were kept well away from me, including RKM. I did get HREFM, but I think I had to pay for it initially. More useful in helping me understand.


Even if BOOPSI is what you think it is (It isn't) it would still have nothing to do with replacing libraries and drivers with newer versions on earlier versions of the OS.

First mention of BOOPSI on a Fish Disk was 911 which contained the GadOutline library for developers by the legend Dianne Hackborn.

The accumulated knowledge of the members here is vast as some of us have been using and developing for the Amiga for 30 years. Any wrong info gets corrected pretty much immediately.
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Re: Using later libs and drivers with earlier WB releases
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 02:29:28 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;819321
LOL, watch out, this guy doesn't like being told he might possibly be wrong about something.

:laughing:

I miss Franko! ;-)

He really knew his stuff though unlike some people.
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Re: Using later libs and drivers with earlier WB releases
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 03:23:42 PM »
Quote from: kolla;819380
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