OS3.9 BB3+4 V1.2 Available

[nicholas]

Did you give permission for this?

bash-3.2$ lha v BoingBags3\&4.lha | grep shell-seg
[unknown]                16950   29092  58.3% -lh5- d480 Jan 10 02:50 boingbag3.9-3&4/files1/l/shell-seg
bash-3.2$


That is - this is not patches, these are fully patched binaries, distributed around as half-official.

If Cosmos was doing this, it would be havoc.

 My thoughts exactly.  One rule for some and another for everyone else.

[nicholas]

Hey, I'll kill the link... no problem - if you would like. But, the only reason I posted the link (I might add that I posted a point of reference link to EAB for clarification as to where and why the download was provided) was that it seemed to me that Kolla was collaborating with the author of the V1.2-3&4 Boing Bag (EAB post #70 and #71) and that his Genesis concern was addressed. I too was concerned with the same issue among others the last time I installed BB3&4. I have since NOT installed BB3&4 on my newest OS3.9 install.

I am not in the same circles as those so closely associated with the release of such software updates and don't pretend to be. It just seemed to me that this release was legit as it was posted on EAB for ALL to see! EAB Post #72. How is this "allowed" over at EAB without the same uproar? What makes the link "illegal" here on Amiga.org and NOT illegal over on EAB? Who's running this place anyway?

Sheeeeesh, I was just trying let peeps here on A.O. know of a new version of BB3&4 - I didn't know that decisions of what software development gets posted here where reserved for only a select few. Talk about double standards! You guys (I have no idea who that is) responsible for such releases need to get your golf balls in the same bucket. Sorry if I stepped on anyone's turf!

 I think it should be allowed and that this is a great collection of software, it's the "Won't somebody think of the rights holders?! There's pennies to be made!" mentality that some people have towards ancient software that needs to go.  It's this mentality that holds back the community.

[nicholas]

Maybe it should, maybe it should not. But it is not you who has to decide. Illegal remains illegal.

 Indeed that is true, so the question remains why the double standards (not from you but from the 'community' and it's self appointed 'leaders')?

[nicholas]

People from the "Land of free speech" calling for censorship always makes me chuckle.

[nicholas]

In fact it was kolla who originally asked for censorship, see post #7.

Yeah but he's one of those Scandinavian no good pinkos!  Seriously though, Kolla was  just pointing out the hypocrisy of certain people in the community rather than calling for this to be removed.

[nicholas]

The point is that it becomes more and more clear that this is no longer the case. I wouldn't say so if it wouldn't be possible, and this is exactly why there are currently some talks on the way to make exactly that possible, not everything of which can be made public at this time.

 

Again, that no longer the case, at least according to the folks I talked to. There is currently a window of opportunity for exactly that. The reason that Cloanto has problems with Os 3.9 is not because they are not interested. It is more that Cloanto has unfortunately only rights on 3.1, but not on 3.9.

But no, the copyrights are not lost, the sources are not lost, and I really *do* have some hope that it should be possible to renovate 3.9 a bit. What triggered all this was of course the arrival of new hardware.

Whether this will work or not I cannot promise, of course, but it doesn't really look that bad anymore.

That's good to hear. I asked Mike a couple of months ago about the chances of Cloanto releasing "Workbench 3.10" but he said that even though he'd love to it won't happen due to a total lack of resources available to make it happen.

Trevor? Matthew? Pretty please! ;-)