Too much caffeine?

[nicholas]

It's like anything other legal stimulant. In small doses it's fine. In larger does it can cause lots of health related issues. People can build up a tolerance to caffeine and need more in order to get any kind of 'hit' from it.


Here is a list of stuff that can happen from drinking too much.

• Jitters, Restlessness, and Nervousness
• Increased heartbeat
• Nausea
• Anxiety
• Heart palpitations (cardiac arrhythmia)
• Insomnia
• Sweating
• Dizziness
• Vomiting

I have read about full on heart attacks happening because too much has been consumed but I am unsure how much was actually consumed. I would presume that there are underlying health issues too in order to cause this.

It can cause problems for people with mental health issues too.

[nicholas]

Millions of ppl have restless leg syndrome which can be cured by avoiding caffeine.  But no doctor will tell you that.  They keep it secret so they can make more money off of you.

In the civilised world where we have free healthcare the doctors will.

Millions of ppl grind their teeth at night which can be cured by avoiding caffeine.  But no doctor will tell you that.  They keep it secret so they can make more money off of you.

See above.

[nicholas]

No part of any world has free healthcare.

You pay for it with gigantic ridiculously high taxes.
You pay for it with a depressed economy.
You pay for it with depressed technology.
You pay for it with rampant poverty.
You pay, you pay and then you pay some more, whether you need any healthcare or not.

You can be 100% healthy every day for 10 years but you will still PAY thousands of $$$$ every single year for your "free healthcare".

Free at the point of entry.

I agree with Mr Knight.

I paid 40% income tax for most of my working life and the higher rate of National Insurance quite gladly because I knew those not as fortunate to be earning as much as me would have access to the same high standard of services as myself.

If you don't like your doctor behaving like a snake oil salesman then I can only say you reap what you sow.

History will judge a civilisation by how it treated it's most vulnerable citizens.....

[nicholas]

EDIT THE NEXT DAY:  Sorry Mrknight and Nicholas.  I should have simply replied +1 and left out the drippy sarcasm.  It is frustrating that a few very persuasive voices have convinced many that a profit motivated healthcare system in this country is far better and more trustworthy than a government pooled system.

Don't worry, the sarcasm was appreciated.

[nicholas]

I would rather pay into a system and know that I will be treated regardless of social or economical status than pay private insurance and not be guarenteed to get treatment. Don't forget that our taxes and national issurance pays for hospitals, ambulances, clinics, nurse led units, gp's and a whole lot of other things.
 
Also where did the depressed technology bit come into it? Didn't know technology had got to the stage where it could get depressed. :huh:
 
Oh and I work for the NHS. We have some of the best medical devices money can buy in our new hospital. Would hardly call it dated, useless or even "depressed"

I had minor surgery recently and was forced to have it done at a private CareUK clinic paid for by the NHS.

It went against every principle I have.

What makes it even worse is that this scheme was put in place by Labour not the Tories.

New Labour==Old Tory.

[nicholas]

Good discussion! I was just doing a random posting about caffeine but this health care debate is much better.

I found this table
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS
It shows that US is spending almost double percentage of GDP compared to Australia, UK, Sweden and Finland just to name a few.

I talked to a co-worker a couple of days ago and he told me a story he had with a guy when he visited US. He told that the hospital scheduled in unnessesary operations for his relative even if it was shown after the first operation that it was no use. The relative was beyond recover. But the hospital scheduled all the operations and the insurance compay paid for them. Sounds to me that the hospital was more than happy to milk as much money as possible...

But but but t3h communists!!!

[nicholas]

Soo.. It's better to be agains free (public funded) healthcare than be called a communist? :confused:

Eh? :confused:

[nicholas]

Well, you implied that you are a communist if you are a supporter of free healthcare.

Or I got that wrong...

Erm, no I was taking the piss out of certain Americans when they talk about free health care. Lol

[nicholas]

As an American who is completely in favor of socialized medicine I've got to ask, what's wrong with socialism ('communism' on the other hand is a bad joke)?

Marx and Engels idea that capitalism is needed in order to then implement socialism was correct, but their idea that socialism would then lead to communism (Remember, there has never been a communist state ever) is flawed because it does not take into account the fact that humans are greedy by nature. So because of this communism will never become a reality.  Better to allow free enterprise in private business and socialised infrastructure and utilities paid for by the taxes raised by private capital.

Can I ask any Americans reading this that are opposed to healthcare and public utilities paid for by taxes why they are not opposed to the following socialized things.

Education from kindergarten up to high school.
Fire and rescue service.
Police service.
Other 911 emergency services.
Armed Forces.
Roads and highways.
Street lighting and maintenance.
Public parks.
Public beaches.
And the big one... NASA!
Etc etc......