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Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« on: May 10, 2013, 02:23:13 PM »
I've never been able to understand why people complain about lack of hardware support with AROS.  It supports more hardware than both MorphOS and OS4, especially OS4.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 03:52:18 PM »
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Basically the problem is that you have to buy second hand hardware, and then it'll probably work. People tend to assume that because it runs on a PC, that it'll run on a recent PC - but that's usually not the case.


That's not even close to being true.

If you said "outdated hardware" you might be closer but MorphOS and OS4 only run on even more outdated hardware.

Yet AROS runs on top of the line Intel and AMD CPU's both 32bit and 64bit, also various 680x0 ARM and PPC CPU's, has full hardware accelerated 2D and 3D graphics on the best hardware money can buy, full USB2.0 support, proper DMA, runs hosted on top of other Operating Systems as varied as Android, BSD, Linux and OSX without depending on emulation, runs natively on genuine real Amiga hardware, I could go on forever.

I love my MorphOS boxes as much as anyone (1 Pegasos, 2 PowerMacs and a PowerBook on its way for my birthday present) and you'll have to prize my real Amigas from my cold dead hands (I even used to run OS4 on a BPPC but it wasn't a pleasant experience but I'd gladly run it on a faster hardware should it ever be ported to something that isn't overpriced junk) but I don't live in cloud cuckoo land, its blatantly obvious that AROS supports far more hardware than the Amiga OS or MorphOS OS4 do combined.

It is also the only realistic future for the platform in the long term due to its Free and Open Source nature. When the MOS Team get bored/die of old age and Hyperion run out of money, the AROS code will still be out there on the interwebs for anyone who wants to put it on new hardware.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 04:16:06 PM »
You need to burn the Icaros image to a disc or USB drive then boot your laptop from it.

You've been running it in an interpreted PC emulator on top of Windows that's why it was so slow.  If you want to run it on Windows at near native speed you need to install virtual box or buy VMware/Parallels.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 04:59:23 PM »
Quote from: AmigaBruno;734404
the Amiga OS/Workbench/AmigaDOS is descended from UNIX

No it wasn't.

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To sum up, the original Amiga idea was UNIX + Atari 8 bit + fun & games + 16/32 bit hardware = Amiga.

No it wasn't.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 05:08:37 PM »
Quote from: AmigaBruno;734406
I downloaded it, burnt it onto DVD, then tried to boot from it, but it wouldn't boot.  


Not really giving us much to go on are you?

I suggest you create an account at http://aros-exec.org and make a post with a tad more detail than "it no workee" if you want people to actually be able to help you.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 07:33:25 PM »
Quote from: ferrellsl;734430
I know I'll get flamed for saying it but I've used Aros, OS4 and MorphOS and of the 3, I have to say that Aros and MorphOS were superior in many ways compared to OS4.  The comments about Aros requiring you to use outdated or second-hand hardware are total BS.  Aros has some very narrow hardware requirements especially when it comes to wireless networks cards

How did I forget, how many wireless cards does OS4 support exactly? ;)

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but I installed it on a Dell laptop with an nVidia GPU and have been very pleased with it.  The only changes I had to make in terms of hardware was to replace the wireless card with an Aros-supported card.  Aros also runs circles around OS4 and MorphOS just due to the fact that it takes advantage of modern x86-64 processors.  If I had to rank the 3 OS's in terms of usability and performance, I'd rate Aros at the top, followed by MorphOS and lastly OS4.

MorphOS is much more polished than AROS, but it's not far behind these days.  OS4 isn't much better than a fully tweaked Amiga OS 3.9 install.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 10:31:03 PM »
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Making drivers for AROS is an incredibly difficult process

Where do you get this crap from? It's no more difficult than writing drivers for the Amiga OS, MorphOS or OS4.

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so there's a latency between release of hardware and drivers emerging; hence most hardware you can get that's new isn't natively supported by AROS.

Just because you repeat a lie over and over again it doesn't make it any truer.

Tell me, what new hardware that is released does OS4 support? Oh that's right, none whatsoever.

It doesn't even support the hardware in its flagship machine fully.

What is it with a large segment of OS4 users seeming to only be able to enjoy their chosen OS by spreading lies about MOS/AROS?

If you had made valid complaints then fair enough but you've done nothing but make yourself look ridiculous with the nonsense you've been spewing in this thread.
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini