Is Amiga Inc's claim to AOS valid?

[nicholas]

For those who think that copyrights are limited to individual countries, please reference to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_international_copyright_agreements

Iran ftw!

[nicholas]

@Iggy

Think of it this way.... if Haynie's BS is true then MorphOS is the true Amiga OS.

One could further mash the heads of the Blind Hyperion Followers by digging up that old post where one of the Friedens stated that OS4 contains little to none of the Commodore source.

[nicholas]

Oh, if that's the whole point then let me clear it up for you.

Yes, it is piracy.

Not in Iran it isn't. Nor is it "piracy" in many other jurisdictions either.

[nicholas]

Actually, if you steal something... Then it is piracy, regardless of the lack of laws to protect it.

Providing download links of software is not stealing according to the laws of Iran, The Netherlands and many many other countries.

[nicholas]

I see, so if I show someone where you hide the key to the back door of your house, then I have done nothing wrong, when that person robs your DVD player and poops on your kitchen table

False analogy Matt.

Question.

Is using another company's registered Trademarks stealing?

[nicholas]

No, that is fraud. You are passing one product off as another.

Well I own the registered trademarks for Commodore and Amiga in Iran and most other Muslim majority countries (and a few others too).

Amiga Inc/C-USA own them in the USA and most other secular countries.

Who is fraudulently using those marks?

[nicholas]

You are mixing definitions:

Stealing is when you deprive goods from its rightfull owner in an unlawfull manner.

Copyright infrigement is when you just copy what other people have created disregarding the legal authorization and/or monetary compensation required.

Piracy is what those damn Somali pirates have been doing at the sea.


As an example, in my country it is ilegal to sell copied DVD movies, but you can download and use your own copy from the internet without being prosecuted. Legal problems only arise if you intend to commercially profit from that act.

+1 for Argentina!

[nicholas]

It's not my opinion, it's a fact.



Has the copyright expired? No? Than someone owns it. It doesn't really matter if you know who they are or not.

That isn't strictly true.

If the copyrights were not transferred from Commodore to a third party by the liquidators there is the very real possibility that they are currently unassigned, as Commodore as a legal entity no longer exists.