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Offline nicholas

Re: Amithlon/Amiga osxl questions.
« on: April 05, 2011, 12:49:22 PM »
Quote from: haywirepc;628133
I'm trying to find more on the net about what hardware is supported. Not much out there. I suppose most people moved on to amiga forever on windows or aros...
 
Steven

http://www.commodore.gen.tr/forum/index.php?topic=2385.msg38089#msg38089

Enjoy! :)
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Offline nicholas

Re: Amithlon/Amiga osxl questions.
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 12:52:41 PM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;628155
68k uae run even aga software full speed/full framerate

Does the 68k UAE virtualise the 68k CPU it is running on (ala VMWare/VirtualBox etc) or does it emulate a whole CPU (like it does on x86/PPC/ARM platforms)?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Amithlon/Amiga osxl questions.
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 01:01:19 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;628392
I'm guessing at emulation. Although supported since the 68010, straight virtualisation likely wouldn't work without a few patches to the guest AmigaOS.

Hmmm, so a 68k JIT emulation engine is emulating a second 68k interpretive engine.

Interesting.....

Am I correct in assuming that Sheepshaver virtualises the 68k CPU?
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Offline nicholas

Re: Amithlon/Amiga osxl questions.
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 01:52:43 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;628398
I think virtualising the 68k would be virtually impossible (if you excus the pun), since the emulated chipset would not have the correct timings with respect to the CPU... That's my guess. You would have to emulate both chipset and CPU... I think... Not sure exaclt how a JIT would work here :)

Thought experiment for the day:  Which would be fastest (theoretically at least and ignoring the chipset issue).

An x86-JIT'd 68k interpretively emulating a 68k
An x86-JIT'd 68k JIT emulating a 68k
An x86-JIT'd 68k virtualising a 68k
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Offline nicholas

Re: Amithlon/Amiga osxl questions.
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 01:54:14 PM »
Quote from: haywirepc;628133
I'm trying to find more on the net about what hardware is supported. Not much out there. I suppose most people moved on to amiga forever on windows or aros...
 
Steven

Some up to date Amithlon documentation
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Offline nicholas

Re: Amithlon/Amiga osxl questions.
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 05:47:24 PM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;628497
As yet there's not a great deal of amithlon natively compiled software, so Id be a happy man if Vice does end up getting an amithlon version.

Perhaps Amithlon support could be added to AmiDevCPP to make things a little easier for people who want to compile x86-BE versions of their Amiga apps?

http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/index.php?HR_LANG=english
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