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Re: 68k library DVD for Natami MX
« on: March 02, 2011, 04:53:51 AM »
This threads ruddy confusing... :confused:

Is it about Natami ???

Is it about OS4.x ???

Is it about neither ???

Is it about time, we had subtitles round here to help understand what some folk are saying... :)
 

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Re: 68k library DVD for Natami MX
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 08:55:13 AM »
@ Vox

Wowsers... and folk say I post too much around here, reckon you'll soon be way out in front with your posting rate enthusiasm... :)

(PS:Handy tip... you don't need an individual post one after the other, you are allowed to put your response in the one post you know... :))
 

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Re: 68k library DVD for Natami MX
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 03:31:37 PM »
@ fishy_fiz

I don't get this "where's the new software coming from" thing, to me the main purpose of the Natami (should it ever arrive) would quite quite simply be an end to having to take your chances on the like of eBay buying old second hand Amigas or hardware in order to keep using it... :)

If (and lets say if) the NatAmi were to take off and do reasonably well for itself the I would be one of the ones writing new software for it, as at least you would then be able to write stuff that you knew everyone could use based on the NatAmi's lowest specs... :)

Plus the new GFX modes should open up a whole new opportunity to create some new and unique software once again, the last thing I want to do on an Amiga is run ports of Microsoft or Apple based software, the Amiga is a very different machine to all the others out there and to me that's the way it should remain... :)
 

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Re: 68k library DVD for Natami MX
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 03:55:29 PM »
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SDL software wont be an option for 68k software. Even an '060 struggles with all but the most simple (ie. space invaders/pacman style) SDL software. As for the new screenmodes, the modes it provides (and higher) have been available to the amiga for many years.


Firstly... What's SDL software ???
 

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Re: 68k library DVD for Natami MX
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 04:23:24 PM »
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SDL is an open source, multiplatform api that can deal with gfx, audio, io, cdrom, etc.  Basically (for conversations sake) it wraps itself around a host oses apis. The advantage being it's typically easy to port software using it to a platform that supports it, the disadvantage being it's not very efficient, especially in it's amiga incarnations.


Ok... Understood... :)

But you miss the point here of the NatAmi, it's designed with being able to write programmes for it in native Motorola 68K Assembler, it would be pretty pointless in writing software for it using the api you mention as this would simply not get the best from it unlike writting in native Assembler... :)

You also mention that the enhanced modes (ie:32 Bit TrueColour) have been available on the Amiga for years, by that I take it you mean RTG boards, again though your missing the point how many current Amiga hardware users own an RTG GFX board, not many I'd reckon, and most likely the reason why not very much was ever written to take advantage of them... :)

The way I see it is the default configuration of the NatAmi would become the de-facto standard for writing new stuff for it in good old M68K Assembler which it has been designed to make best use of... :)

It would be pretty pointless in the designers spending so much time and effort in making the NatAmi 100% backwards compatible with the M68k series of processors if all folk were going to do was write stuff for it using the kind of thing you mention, you be as well just buying Amiga Forever and writting stuff that way... :)
 

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Re: 68k library DVD for Natami MX
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 04:58:18 PM »
@ Fishy_Fiz

I'd say your 1/3 or more figure is way off the mark, I wouldn't even put it as high as 1/4 more like an 1/8 (and that's being optimistic), anway, if it's advertised as 100% backwards compatible and it turns out not to be then it will be one hell of a big fail if that was the case... :)

Most Amiga stuff was written in 68K Assembler, the poorer quality stuff that ran not to the Amigas full potential were written mostly in C. Plenty of folk still write their own code in Assembler for the Amiga and it will most likely be they who write the new stuff for the Natami as well as those who prefer C... :)

Again you seem to miss the point here, it's not just about running existing software it's about being able to purchase a brand new bit of kit that's easy to add things like HDs, DVD Drives, USB etc... without having to rely on purchasing old second hand stuff that you can't guarantee will actually be working or how long it's going to last... :)