Is this the problem? (not related to C= USA at all!)

[Franko]

Perhaps we should all just enjoy the legacy of Amiga and leave it at that? There is no shame in being the owner of a vintage 1985 computer than annihilated EVERYTHING for sale to home or business users on the day of launch by such a huge margin that the owning company didn't even have a clue how to describe it to people weened on rubbish Mac/PC DOS/ST/8bit

I personally think that's the best way for the Amiga to remain...

To me currently the only real option of a NEW Amiga that would even come close to being like the legacy Amiga is the NatAmi. If the NatAmi ever becomes a reality then that is probably the only NEW type of Amiga I would purchase, providing it lives up the the specs and claims of it's developers.

If it did then it would mean we could have...

1: A new modern (not second hand) piece of hardware that is 100% backwards compatible with the Amiga...
2: Runs faster without having to scour the likes of ebay and pay ridiculous prices for an old accelerator board that you can't even guarantee will be working...
3: Has new & better GFX modes that programers could learn about and write new software to take advantage of...
4: Make available the ease of use of adding things like USB/ HDs/ DVD Drives etc... without the need to try and find add on hardware controller boards...
5. It can be programmed they way it should be in M68k Assembler, as there are still plenty of talented coders around who could write new stuff to take advantage of it's new features or just create new progs to take advantage of it's increased speed...
6: It would be very easy for anyone with the slightest bit of previous experience of ever using an Amiga to pick up and be able to use it comfortably without having to figure out much about it.

To me that would be the best way for the Amiga to go forward as there is no need or indeed point for it to even attempt to try and compete with the world of PCs & Macs as it never would be able to anyway, but then you never know stranger things have happened...

[Franko]

Computing requirements now are almost fundamentally different to what they were 26 years ago, let us make a list of what a user needs from a computing device now;

1. Mobility
2. Connectivity
3. Compatibility
4. Usability
5. Low power consumption

If you work through those you will probably end up with something not unlike an iPad... Hopefully better, but fundamentally the same...

Not everyone requires an amiga to have...

1. Mobility - Not Required
2. Connectivity - (To what, the net) Not Required
3. Compatibility - (Again to What, PC/Mac software) Not Required
4. Usability - Well a computer that's unusable would be pretty pointless
5. Low power consumption - (Plenty of electricity in my house) Not Required

Oh well 1 out of 5 is not bad... :lol:

[Franko]

Then you don't want a "New Amiga", you just want an old Amiga with upgrades.

But I submit that you are far from a normal user (to be fair none of us here are normal users), that is why Apple sell millions of devices and Commodore is gone and all efforts to resurrect the "Amiga" have and will fail.

A nice related story:
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple after 10 years away, he was proudly ushered into a room at the Apple HQ filled will perfect condition examples of all products Apple had produced since the Apple I... He was apparently unimpressed and told the executive to give them all away to local museums... And demanded that Apple only look forward and never look back.

Reckon your bang on with that one...

Yup the way I like all things Amiga to be is way out of tune with the vast majority I reckon, but so are most of my viewpoints on most things on this crazy planet...

However back on my home planet I'm considered as normal...

[Franko]

but Commodore went bankrupt for a reason. Want backward's compatibility? Fire up Win UAE or some form of an emulator.  Its basically like the slim PS3s, took out backwards compatiblity because it isn't necessary.

Either way, I am not here to get burned on or poke at something I said. I am basically stating what was on my mind.

Poke... Poke... Reason = Medhi Ali... :madashell:

(drat me matches are wet... )

[Franko]

Then that means Commodore went bankrupt because of it having the wrong people.  Doesn't matter now, its history.

Tell that to the English, cos every four years they never shut up about how they won the world cup in 1966... :furious:

[Franko]

Everyone knows Scotland is really a part of England anyway.

Britain? No such thing :hammer:

yah wee jobbie wheech ye, rats ra ultimate insult tae any ginger heeded beardy wearin Scotsman... :madashell: :flak: :pissed:

awa n bile yer heed ya upside doon pooh bear shaggin hauf sassenach ye... :swords:

(PS: I agree on the Britain thing though...