My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[Franko]

I think objections have been noted, your opinion has been considered. Are you seriously considering the opinions of others who are interested in this? Fine it doesn't have anything to do with Amiga, so freaking what, nothing since 1994 really has a direct link to Amiga anyway.

Something truly totally original has no market. And very little chance to be sold for any kind of a reasonable price.  That is were Natami and all the others are going, there is no bussiness sense in that. Where there is possibility is in starting something that has potential and building on that. And that is what Barry Altman seems to want to do.

Seriously, those of you with moral, ethical, whatever obejections to this need to get over it. It doesn't appeal to you fine, don't buy it. It is legal, it is going forward, and there are people interest in it. We don't care if it is a real resurrection of the "amiga" whatever you consider that to be.

Continuing to harp on this stupid "it's not an amiga" crap is ringing so hollow lately.

Why are you telling folk to "get over it" folk are entitled to voice their views and opinions just like you do.

Who are this "We" you speak of, have you been nominated their spokesman ?

Again your comment "Fine it doesn't have anything to do with Amiga, so freaking what," why is it ok for you to make such comments but you insist on telling folk that there opinions don't count... blah, blah, blah...

Your continuing to harp on about other folks comments is also ringing very hollow, I think you can only ever see one side of an argument and it always seems to be yours...

[Franko]

I see your side of the argument, I have heard it over and over again, and yet you still make it. Relax, this product isn't for you, just like OS4 isn't for me. I don't state my opinion over and over on OS4 threads because I don't care, I don't consider it to be any more "amiga" than Aros, or MOS or any of the other projects out there.

I agree with you that this product isn't for me and I've already stated that here in other threads, just as I have stated I wish CUSA no harm in their business venture.

My only complaint (which I have also stated numerous times) is the use of the Commodore, C64, Amiga & Workbench Brand Names/Trademarks but as CUSA seems to be adamant on using them then I shall continue to express my views on this whenever the subject arises...

[Franko]

Should they have asked you? If they asked everyone in the amiga community they would get different answers from all of us. From what I can see they have every legal right to use these names, and a significant part of the community supports them. That you don't is regrettable, but that is one (rather loud) voice.

I used to give my opinion about OS4 whenever the subject arose, until I realized that my opinion didn't (and shouldn't) matter to the developers, and supporters of OS4. I am not a potential customer and they don't care. My opinion was, and is worthless.

Damn right they should have asked me...

Joking aside, I don't see a significant part of the community supporting them both here and on AW and on various reports I've read about CUSA on other sites, quite the opposite in fact.

You make consider by you own words that you opinion on OS4 was worthless but I don't consider my opinions to be worthless to me, otherwise there would be no point in me expressing them...

[Franko]

If you aren't a potential customer what are your opinions worth to them. Not much. If you continue expessing them like this? they will, because you will be an enemy.

Now you've really lost me an enemy to who

[Franko]

So that makes his opinion invalid? Is that what this comes down to, money? 'Cause people who will take anything from anybody as long as they bring the cash, there's a word for them...

BARRY ALTMAN... :roflmao:

(Ok... that's two words but who's counting, well probably KT & Dammy... )

[Franko]

Oh well... I'm off to have some dinner and watch a film it's called "How To Lose Friends And Alienate People", thinks it must be documentary on CUSA (Wonder if old KT & Dammy appear in it)...

[Franko]

I will give those guys a chance, because it seems the most reasonable attempt to revive the Amiga that I've seem in a decade. I appreciate what they are doing as much as I do appreciate AROS and Natami and Minimigs.

You see I don't get why folk can make a statement like that and believe it, they are not attempting to revive the Amiga they are setting up a business that will sell PCs running an Amiga emulator, that in no way can be described as reviving the Amiga...

[Franko]

Unless of course they are planning to revive it with a modern Amigaoid OS, then the emulator/sandbox is for backward capability for the original OS. So far, all you have seen is the C64x and the Vic series but you want to point to the C64x/Vic as the new Amiga, which it isn't.

Glad to see you've stopped the name calling, much appreciated thank you...
(as it was becoming a bit tedious for the other members here as I think you will have noted)

Anyway I don't think me or you are ever going to be able to agree on this subject, you know your opinions and I know mine and to me we're just going round and round in circles here going over the exact same subject time & time again.

Unless someone comes up with something new to debate on this subject or makes a claim that I strongly disagree with, then I'm outa this one for the time being...

[Franko]

You seem to have forgotten to close this one too...

[Franko]

Instead of posting this diatribe/bs an "I agree" would have been acceptable and shorter way of saying the same thing

@ brownb2

:lol:

(PS:You look a lot better now in your new avatar... :lol:)

[Franko]

Hi smerf...

Methinks your fibbing, telling porky pies, winding us up...

COMMODORE... SALESMAN...

No such beastie every existed, that's like saying I once worked as a hitman for Mother Teresa or I sold seashells on the seashore...

Wind up... Surely...

Franko

[Franko]

Hi Smerf

:lol:

Yup back in the old days if you had a 10 megabyte hard dick it was thought of as being huge but if you had 20 megabyte one you were called Errol Flynn...

Franko

[Franko]

Hi Franko,

Not wanting to brag about size here - but back in the old days I had two 65 mB RLL harddisks connected to my A500 via Omti RLL controller and 'ct-interface - just curious how that would have been called...
 :lol:

Hi Dandy

Well if you had two of them then I reckon "Circus Show Freak" or "The Elephant Man" would have been appropriate...

(I remember paying £459 for my 120MB HD for my old A1500... :eek:)