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Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« on: January 03, 2011, 11:08:21 PM »
Just been watching a documentary on Discovery Science entitled "I Videogame", it was about the history of video games from the beginnings to the present day.

It features interviews with the like of Peter Molyneux (creator of Populous), Sid Mieir (athour of Civilisation), Will Right (Sim City) and the usual mixture of so called experts, journalist & phsycologists  and some rare glimpses of old C64 and Amiga games.

The thing that left me laughing & worrying about this documentary was the interviews with today's gamers the so called self titled "Generation X"... what a complete bunch of tossers, not a clue about what they are saying and contradicting their own so called ethos and beliefs by their very own words... :lol:

According to this program there have been 3 generations of computer/video gamers...

The first generation: (I'm supposed to be part of that one) were those who were around at the start of home gaming/computing and who embraced it as something new & exciting but was nothing more than a pastime... :)

The second generation: were those who were just born around that time and grew up in the belief that computers/ video gaming had always been there and was just a natural part of everyday life that this was the way folk should entertain themselves... :)

The third genaration: "Generation X" well in their own words they use computers and video games to express themselves as artisans (sound pretentious already) are totally against any form of establishment and the video games industry is their way to express themselves and fight back against the so called establishment... :lol:

Now the crazy thing these so called anti establishment "Generation X" numpties don't seem to have the brains to realise is they are in fact contributing to keep the establishment in business and a supplying them with a healthy profit. I watched with laughter as they claimed they were artisans and modders of games who expressed themselves by taking a product like Halo (to name but one) and modding it to be the way that they think it should be and thinking this was being a rebel and an anarchist, gawd give me strength... :lol:

In the very same clip you had the old geezers in the suits from the publishing & hardware companies pointing out to them that in fact their modding was in actual fact making a healthy contribution to game sales as the mods they created encouraged more people to actually go out and buy the consoles and games and didn't these rebels realise they were the ones buying the consoles and games in the first place thus turning a huge profit for the establishment and multi-national corporations they claim to be fighting against... :lol:

The most absurd statements came from the authors and so called "Generation X" diddies who wrote games like "9/11 Survivor" and claim that these games actually put the player in a place where they could experience what it really feels like to be in an actual real life, life or death situation... No you stupid twats it's a game on a computer screen and until you actually experience a life or death situation in real life no computer game is ever going to cause you to physically shit yourself or actually kill someone else in order to save your own life... :)

I really worry just what goes through the minds of these kids/adults and think to myself my gawd these are the folk who will be our Doctors, MPs, Lawyers, Policemen etc...  ie:the current/future establishment... :(

So to all you so called "Generation X" whahoos out there, try and watch this documentary, take a step back and think for a moment and realise YOU ARE THE ESTABLISHMENT you claim to be fighting and rebelling against, better still switch of your consoles and step out into the real world and see how you cope with a real life or death situation should you come across it...

Take it from me in reality a real life or death situation is nothing any computer game experience can prepare you for... ;)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 11:47:46 PM »
Quote from: whabang;603638
Problem?

Matter of fact I do... Now where do I start... ;)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 11:58:11 PM »
I didn't... but I like it... :)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 02:38:55 AM »
@ nicholas
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

That's one of the best music vids I've seen in a long long time, thank you for that... :)

(Sad thing is, it's true... :eek:)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 10:18:04 PM »
The sad & scary thing about watching that doc was most of these guys had been to uni and were supposedly well educated... :(

The odd thing I've generally found with uni educated folk are there are two types...

The ones who came from a working/middle class background who leave uni and still struggle to find a decent job and have to fight to create a decent career for themselves despite the fact they are very intelligent and have a lot of common sense about them... :)

The other type, who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth, go to uni cos Daddy was so rich and It just wouldn't do if his offspring didn't have a degree of some sort. They leave uni still none the wiser not one ounce of common sense between them but because of Daddies old boy network they walk straight in a career for life and get paid for being as thick as sh!te... :(

And Cameron is trying to sell us his "big society" crap I bet the bugger doesn't even know what society means without some civil servant explaining it to him... :)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 12:00:55 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;604482
Have you actually played some of these modern games? It's not an attack but i think for someone to criticise something they first have to know what they are talking about. You have many times  in the past stated you have no interest in modern games and hardware but at the same time you are quick to dismiss them. :)

I think some games like call of duty are quite realistic. I feel this game it has taught me a lot and it has been a real opener in certain ways. Same for other games too. Also don't forget about VR which has been used succesfully to treat certain conditions. My point is games can approach a certain realism that can not be denied.

Yes I have tried them and seen them, my nephew owns just about every modern gaming console there is along with all the games... :)

I am quick to dismiss them because to me they all look and play the same (and as I have said I have tried them), it's only my opinion but to me they are mind numbing trash... :)

As for realism that's the worst part of them if I want realism I just have to watch a modern movie with all the latest computer generated effects. All this so called realistic GFX in modern computer games to me takes away the feel that you actually playing a game... :(

I like my games to have a bit of depth and require me to use my brain for the most part and have GFX that make you realise your actually playing a computer game and not just participating in what's really nothing more than an interactive video... :)

Sorry if that doesn't fit in with you opinions of these things, but that's just my own honest view on this subject and you did ask... :)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 12:14:15 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;604473
I have to disagree with a lot that has been written here.

I saw the documentary as well and thought it was OK until they got to generation x. I thought it was silly and i didn't think it represented modern gamers in any way. It was not an accurate depiction of modern games and gamers. But i also think the part about the mods was correct but i feel people on this thread have misinterpreted what it means. In my opinion mods are the beggining of a possible future of games where gamers are not relient on game companies and are instead able to make thier own games themselves. So this would be correct that they are fighting the establishment. An example of this would be freedoom. Also if you look at the recent rise in popularity of internet games such as java and flash as well as smartphone apps you will see that these games are so simple that anyone can make them. This is fighting the establishment in my opinion.

Another thing. Everyone is quick here to laugh off the modders rebelling against the establishment as being silly. It's funny because it kind of sounds like amigans turning to aros as a way to "fight the establishment"   :confused:

You say you watched the doc but go on to say that these modders are going to  be the ones who will create the future games without the big software companies being a part of it.

Kesa if you listened carefully to what was said in the doc you would realise the games being modded are produced by the companies these numpties claim to be fighting against and none of these so called modders actualy write the games in the first place. So therefore the thicko modders who can't write a game to begin with would have nothing to mod without some software company producing it in the first place... :)

And yes it is funny to listen to them claiming to be fighting the establishment when they are silly buggers buying the games & consoles from the establishment in the first place and not even having the sense to realise this...;)

(I assume from your anger here you are a modder... :))
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 12:18:07 AM »
Quote from: nicholas;604479
Many years ago the local Tory councillor wannabe was trying to drum up votes in the pub.  She started waffling on about all the standard far right bullshit they come out with off-camera and made the mistake of mentioning the word "society" within my earshot.........

"But there is no such thing as society" I shouted across to her

"According to who EXACTLY?" said she.

"Margaret f**king Thatcher!" I replied.

She proceeded to leave the pub. :D

:lol: Well done my friend... :)

It's funny how most Tories seem to forget that infamous statement... ;)

(Still looking forward to the day the old bag dies, the celebrations should be a sight to behold... :))
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 12:52:44 AM »
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Also the game is based on real life historic battles. Obviously they wouldn't be accurate in any way but they inspired me read up on them and do some reading. I did last night.

At last someone who's actually able to think for himself and be inspired to actually take it beyond the realms or computer gaming... :)

I'm not being sarcastic or anything like that here Kesa, but you've just given me some hope for the younger generation again...thank you... :)
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Re: Generation X - Rebels Without A Clue...
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 01:12:05 AM »
@ Kesa

Most folk (and I've seen it said on here numerous times) are of the belief that the days of one or a few folk sitting in their bedroom creating new games or hardware are a thing of the past and could never be repeated again as you need X amount of money behind you these days to be able to produce such things... :(

Me, I believe the exact opposite and no-one can give a valid reason as to why this could never be the case once again. I know I put down these modders guys for the reasons I've already given (right or wrong) but I do hope they succeed in becoming the next generation of bedroom coders. The only thing they need to get out of their head is the idea that they need to fight or try and bring down the big corporations (gawd... I'd love to see that).

If someone whether a group or individual can produce a piece of software or hardware that folk would be willing to buy then not even the big multi nationals could stop them, at the end of the day if you make a product that the consumer likes and is considered worth buying by them, then you'll have winner and no need to waste your time and effort fighting the establishment which unfortunately will always be there... :)
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