Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?

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Do any of you really believe that Hyperion is going to allow AmigaOS4.x to run on any emulator (if they have any way to prevent it, technically, or legally)?  It does not seem to be aligned with their market philosophy.

Hyperion doesn't have a leg to stand on legally to stop it.  At least in the United States.
See Sony v. Connectix

We could get in to the whole software patent issue with emulation but that's a whole new thread.

"There's no more questioning the
legality of emulation. Sony v. Connectix finally settles that issue once and for all. Both
developing and using an emulator are protected under the 'fair use' statute of copyright
law."

 As for technically I guess that depends on how accurate the emulation is.

Edit:  Has Toni actually stated that any part of his work to include PPC emulation within WinUAE is being provided with the intent that it may some day be able to run AmigaOS4.x?  Maybe he is doing it only to allow the very few Amiga PPC software titles that were written for AmigaOS3.x and the Phase5 Blizzard and Cyberstorm accelerators, excluding AmigaOS4.x?

Toni has stated he has no interest in making AOS4 run within Winuae however he is interested in properly emulating the hardware.  If the emulation is true to the hardware AOS4 classic will just run.

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Then it will just be up to Hyperion to release an update/patch to detect that their OS is running in an Emulator and refuse to boot.

That only stops future versions.

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Are you sure about your statement above?  

I read through the thread on EAB and all I could see is that one or two people got the AmigaOS4.x flash screen to show up for a few seconds, before the emulation crashed, froze up, or went black screen.  I have not read that anyone has gotten AmigaOS4.0, or 4.1 for Classic running on WinUAE yet, but maybe I need to read the thread again, or maybe someone just posted some new information today that I have not seen yet.

If you are not running AmigaOS4.x on WinUAE yourself, please be careful not to spread false rumors.  I would hate to see several people go out and buy AmigaOS4.1 for Classic thinking that they are going to be able to run it on WinUAE, only to find out that it is not running yet, or worse that it might never be able to run completely bug free on WinUAE.  Not trying to dispute what you wrote, just saying that when I read that thread, I did not see any definite claims that AmigaOS4.x is now running completely on WinUAE.

I suggest caution and patience, until we have several confirmed reports from different people who have been successful in running AmigaOS4.1 for Classic on WinUAE.

Edit:  Well, I guess that thread is moving too fast for me.  Maybe some people are running AmigaOS4.x on WinUAE.  Too much info for me to keep up with, since I am not really interested in running AmigaOS4.x on WinUAE at this time.  Maybe in a year or two that will change, but for now, I think I will stick to using my X1000 for running AmigaOS4.x.  Forgive me for doubting your statement about anyone successfully running AmigaOS4.x on WinUAE.  I still don't know how successful or how fast it is under emulation, but I imagine that if/when it becomes as fast, or faster than running in on a SAM system, then we will see more people using WinUAE to run AmigaOS4.x.

Did you even read the change notes?

Beta 11:

- P5_AMIGA_RESET CSMK3/CSPPC/BPPC bit can be only changed if P5_SELF_RESET is cleared first.
- Never use normal Z3 autoconfig mapping if Blizzard board is emulated to reduce address space conflicts with Blizzard RAM mirror at 0x48000000. Note that this is impossible config, there is no way to have any Z3 boards with BPPC in real world.
- Blizzard PPC rom name renamed to blizzardppc_060.rom and added blizzardppc_040.rom. 68040 and 68060 variants have different (and incompatible) flash rom contents.
- 68000 + no cycle exact and no "more compatible" used wrong memory access method. (b9)
- RTD instruction was set as 68000 compatible (should be 68010+). Incorrect since the beginning.
- Accelerator board ROM select menus didn't select anything.
- Added full CyberStorm MK1 image ($F00000 ROM code is 68060-only), added another 68040 compatible ROM that simulates boards with boot rom jumper disabled or boot rom chip removed. (Original non-flash based boards had separate ROM chip for boot and diag ROMs and boot was only installed if CPU was 68060)
- CyberStorm MK1 SCSI works again.
- Automatically update accelerator board ROM settings when board type is changed in GUI.
- PPC BAT register handling fixed (Technically not emulation bug but OS bug, PPC documentation says '... BEPI and BRPN fields must have at least as many low-order zeros as there are ones in BL.', BEPI and BRPN needs to be masked with BL instead of trusting software doing as documentation says..)
- Added missing PearPC divwu, divwuo, addco, subfco PPC instructions. (Variants of already existing instructions).

Last two updates allows AmigaOS 4.1 Classic to boot.

Above was direct from Toni

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Any version of OS 4.1 will work?  Sam440 or even A1?  (Dunno much about os4).  I have a friend somewhat close to me that has OS4.1

No 4.1 Classic is the only version that will work.