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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 07, 2012, 02:09:16 PM »
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OMG! That's fantastic!
Well, that product just keeps getting better.
No wonder I haven't needed Media Player under Windows for the last several years.


I was to lazy to post a link to the tutorial on how to do it.  That plus I didn't want to get yelled at over the whole it could be used for piracy issue.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2012, 02:49:55 PM »
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You're right, it's not a G5, the X1000 was designed by the Far East Movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY
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As I said before, practically the same, not exactly the same. As Fab pointed out, both MPlayer and VLC rely heavily on FFMPEG. Other than the BluRay support you pointed out, I can't think of much that MPlayer can't play. In fact, it looks like MPlayer does support encrypted BluRays with a workaround:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html


Multicast video streaming also comes to mind.   I can't watch my network tv tuner with Mplayer but I can with VLC.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2012, 03:45:25 PM »
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Look, I use VLC, I know it's good, but can't you see that MPlayer is very similar in functionality?


playing the same codecs does not equal being an equal product.   I never said mplayer wasn't good but I did however point out ways it was behind vlc.  If you would like I could add some more.

VLC has transcoding built in Mplayer doesn't.    Mplayer is a good player.   VLC is more than a player.   It's more geared towards being a network video tool.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2012, 03:47:50 PM »
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MPlayer supports multicast streaming, and rtp/rtsp protocols (it might require live555 library to work with some streams). But you might have a built where it's disabled. Also, multicast won't work with AmiTCP-likes. MIAMI supported it, though.

As for TV tuners, that's quite a mess, but it mostly depends on v4l on Linux, anyway, so it should work, in theory (might need esotheric options, though).


Nah hdhomerun doesn't use v4l on linux.   It streams the video via a built in server in the box and the stream is picked up via vlc or mplayer.   However most people give up on mplayer because it seems to have issues with it.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 04:38:37 PM »
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When it comes to video players, equal support of codecs does mean an equal product, by and large. All the rest is just bells and whistles on top of this core functionality. Think about how you use a video player.

1. Open video file.
2. Press play.

That's it. As long as the video player plays the file without incident, you don't really interact with it much. This is different from, let's say, spreadsheet software, where you're frequently interacting with the UI.



Most people use VLC as standalone video player.

the bells and whistles as you put it are part of the product.  so <> features = <> product.

ooo care to point out  where you got idea most people use vlc as a stand alone player?  Because it certainly wasn't from vlc's site or forums.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2012, 04:54:39 PM »
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Okay, apart from the networking features that are clearly important to you, what features (that you care about) does VLC have that MPlayer does not?



You might have heard of these things called torrents. They're kinda popular for getting videos. Are you suggesting more people stream videos rather than download them (aside from flash-based sites like YouTube and premium services like Netflix?)?


even for torrents many ps3 users use vlc to transcode the video and stream it to thier ps3's instead of filling up the hard drive.   You know the ps3 you might have heard of it?   there's 1 or 2 people who own one.  Just because you are to simple to do it doesn't mean it's not a popular feature.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2012, 05:28:54 PM »
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Seeing as many people have laptops with HDMI ports built in, you're right, I don't see the point.


you don't have to see the point.   However millions of people do see the point.   I have a latop with hdmi out.  However I don't see the point of pulling it out to hook up to my projector when I can simply stream the video to my already hooked up ps3.  On top of that I can stream to multiple machices at once.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2012, 06:06:55 PM »
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I get it for the geek factor, but apart from that, I don't see why anyone would bother. Let's look at the two solutions:

1. If in worst case scenario you don't have any free HDMI ports in TV/projector, pull cable out and plug in laptop (if do have spare port, then can just keep spare cable around for this).
2. Set up network video stream on laptop/PC, find stream on PS3.

Scenario 1 means no transcoding necessary, no network bandwidth is used up. Scenario 2 requires use of two machines, and if you want to broadcast at a decent level of quality is going to tie up a decent sized chunk of your home network bandwidth. Setup time with both scenarios is roughly equal. You mention streaming to multiple machines at once, just how many PS3s do you own! ;)

Plus, if it's something you do frequently, you'd be far better off with investing in a proper HTPC (running XBMC or similar) and cutting out all this faffing about.

2 ps3's 1 htpc, 2 hdhomerun boxes, 3 xbox360's.  1 Media server ;)


It's not about hooking up a hdmi cable.   It's the fact that I only setup my home theater once period.   I don't have to touch it again.   so by your own logic hooking up a laptop is more work.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2012, 07:09:58 PM »
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Nice. :D



You don't have to touch the cables, but you do have to setup the video stream each time. As I said before, probably looking at similar setup time (about 30 seconds I reckon).

Anyway, horses for courses and all that jazz, do whatever works for you. Sounds like you've got a nice home media setup, what software does the HTPC run? Also, what's the media server? I've been putting together plans for some HTPC goodness, so it'd be good to share notes. :)



The htpc is simply a XBMC box in my living room.   As for my media server it's a headless ubuntu box sitting in a closet that I store my ripped blurays on.   each hdhomerun has 2 tvtuners this gives me 4 tuners I can watch pause play with. I do it this way so I don't have to lug anything from room to room.   If you want more details pm me and we can discuss further.
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »
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I can not believe you guys are still going on about this!


Not sure what you are talking about this thread has made it's way through 4 topics >.<
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2012, 08:58:55 AM »
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Especially as he is the only person not using flash memory or DVDr to play the films like everyone else does :lol:


your time must not be worth much. ;)
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2012, 02:36:09 PM »
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Strange also that everyone I know who has a PS3 (including myself, before its inadequacies pi55ed me off to the point I sold it) uses PS3mediaserver. Far easier (and quicker for those whose time is precious) to set up.


Lol if we want to talk about easiest then the latest Buffalo NAS' come with DLNA servers.   However Since my setup includes Tvtuners which are network based I don't have a standard setup and I will admit that.  However my point still stands.   I was not able to do what I needed with Mplayer.  Which was my main point. :)
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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2012, 11:56:15 AM »
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Synology have had that in their DiskStations like forever (along with *tons* of other features, I can really recommend one of their DiskStation... ;))


I like the cloud apps.  They have a torrent client?
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