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Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 25, 2015, 04:29:57 PM »
to run with logging is from shell : netsurf /v ?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2015, 05:55:23 PM »
OK this is what happen with my desktop A1200, 68040, 32mb ram and AGA :

First,

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2p-90x4B65yFtjWYh-oj_lwWBgmG95TiA69_TSVkHc4M0dqmiOpWZyLCFhaUxb0G-EpY5Oxe4P30B_Gy5xS651KX1o5biGi1tar5qR92vFzZykT0AHRXhCoI8sXCIgqoqvaZzEuGW7Q0QEHBFCoG4ZAw/WP_20150225_007.jpg

Then this, when I choose Jump RTS :

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2p4_PiLWm3ozEl3JRedS20Ne47PDUmzE3Ezpew2UMLotPKcVaVEBvHzEBUE9g81fpOndTCkmUUzLMdFWuBDKzihYkRLrcOF9YgWaE4tkGrjooeyptEWdD0ZhzfheDhr0JIL4z27AmDjiGjJXzLpBqqDA/WP_20150225_008.jpg

Computer freezes.

This is with my 68060, 64mb ram and Picasso96

First

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2phZvYPvlb76WVphAfosXEtR3XXHoko7hoGtt5Q-vU7q3i0_82sjcBQ0USo08Hx7nL3sMVvgbfQJwpnfGxvNsTypklKa50yup5M4o-FRkEDE88YGyAlP3v7IoSxo-PHgNDPLK490xaGHieVtifp6Ge9Q/WP_20150225_003.jpg

Then continuing with Jump RTS

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2pdgdZ6kzXFzHeqydpc88AFHHSQF9is8744YrH1tZ-HuczRQAWiRZri5otaodJmWBJdcvDjtS-sF4TvM6Uw6w_ODiOMKFzG_fACVxbMsuEtzzj4cZi6fPBxqFF7g2elG4fbatjpHHXXxRnnBID5L4x0w/WP_20150225_004.jpg

Continuing with Jump RTS

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2p4bfc0QE-XKLHzUdgUXBCUFhOpvlj5tjvXmTVz4z1z2FP94D3fKYkN94OLD31VZIoP-zU-xDGRTZiC0ZXhxHOHaPevMdJDaXflBcifgL3QYC9o8fWyvoapaOpEiIYXl7x1VjAw3iqE0h6Kbr49GsgvQ/WP_20150225_005.jpg

Still continuing with Jump RTS, after this Computer freezes

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2pPJodD2BzTIjS6ObzD8dLY0iL3aX6QYxnuXzyikY_dsin4cjiws_Dqn3vD1zAGWgS9dNYPou8AIbvYGXnY8uGBNgVbiM-UiQyGlvD_L7Jmp2off6RbmEq7RVzYcwWDgTmeN-fiegY-UPfselwBE2uCg/WP_20150225_006.jpg
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2015, 07:33:51 PM »
I would redirect output to file, but currently I don't have a way to transfer output file out of Computer. Easiest would found ftp server with public folder, upload output file there and download it with my AOS4 Computer of Windows machine.

I used to use for this purpose a netmount command to transfer files between Amiga OS4 <-> Amiga OS3.9 but some how it doesn't work any more.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2015, 07:09:21 PM »
Maybe PeterK can help with scaling/dithering etc stuff? If I remember correctly he has offered his code to other projects with similar problems? He is a creator of new version of icon.library
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2015, 06:00:35 PM »
This one seems to almost work with my Amigas. It started quite well until it stopped here :

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2p_oTIJO0NUuJ3ccjcUASlWshjv9dsvY9BFZ11bRcqoUdsE1BtTbocsb-8KBFLSAfOcJFsz-ZdWTOEw7vfI4RrOIi0ZlrPby9VnUHKbcdouTpsHWpx1A59Sf5gN1OEqf6N7ZVe4whtDPWAdB7EyxuuBQ/WP_20150301_003.jpg

Few seconds more and computer crashes. Are those .otag fonts outlined fonts? Do I need to remove them?

Second time it also gave  me this :

https://zjolha.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2pYWs2LVj2nr5kyGzs1o5hPC5VLK-DQZxSLVNryGCjNVK7Xx4bSJ4JOCijdMMgwsbW1yesdbjea6mCt-yB1QMFs1OmXs09JJ9-nkMPnPDlMjnhtfB7WA-TsIVb2Eks_bty15b1Je2B3JYSPzldbyEeww/WP_20150301_002.jpg

With Jump RTS I could continue until first error repeated.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2015, 10:38:44 PM »
I have excatly same versions of diskfon and bullet.library that you have.

diskfont.library 45.7 (01/26/02)
bullet.library 44.1 (05/01/99)

No Outline fonts and all (two) .otag fonts removed  and fixfonts runned.

No difference.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2015, 10:55:01 AM »
Maybe someone could addvertise Netsurf in EAB? and other Amiga releated sites?  Good solution would be if we could fing a more experienced and interested 68k coder.

What would be facts? When starting it reguires only 5mb ram? I requires OS3.5/3.9 maybe it will work with OS3.1 with Reaction installed? It requires AGA or RTG.

What is current state? Is it bog slow or is it "semi useable"?

What is needed by coder? CGI version ??? What are current problems?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2015, 05:16:09 PM »
Congratulations Chris :) Netsurf start and "works" both of my AGA machines.

a few considerations :

It asks TBImages assign in startup, where should I assign it?
My RTG machine uses chip ram and it is even slover than my 040/AGA
My plain AGA machine "unable to open xxx" where xxx is font name, with prety much every font.

Plain AGA machine Netsurf uses about 13mb ram to start.

But BIG step forward! It works, now those who like to use emulated machine has a useable browser. Now some speed ups and we have a solution for browser problem.

Big thanks for your hard work and patience. If you need any testing I help as much I can with my Limited skils.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 05:22:23 PM by utri007 »
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2015, 06:51:10 PM »
Even download statusbar works :)
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2015, 09:43:20 PM »
Quote from: chris;794019

It should only be using the default CG fonts. Which fonts is it complaining about?


Prety much every font. ie. numerous fonts. :)

Quote

Oops, I should have mentioned that. It needs AISS installed, even if the default theme is selected (not sure why, need to check that). http://www.masonicons.de


It doesn't need AISS it just asks it. Works with assign to any place and no complains latter.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2015, 10:13:59 PM »
OK made some test with and without friend_bitmap:1

There is a very visible diffrence how Netsurf displays web page with it enabled and disabled.

With it enabled start page seems to be OK

With it enabled memory use is about 500kb chip ram, without it about 1000kb.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2015, 10:44:21 PM »
They are named aga / rtg, better looking is rtg

Some new info for few minits.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2015, 10:50:05 PM »
Font problem must be something simply? Snoopdos says simply that it fails to open fonts. Looking them from Fonts: ?

Any way, I noticed that without fonts scrolling is smooth, so there is a huge problem with fonts / speed. Or there is other reason for that. :)
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2015, 04:54:16 PM »
I have two log files for you. Smaller one stopped for a guru. Bigger one has very weird volume request.

It does something weird to memory?
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2015, 06:44:47 PM »
My mistake, I didn't have those fonts installed. :( Now when I copied them to Fonts: it doesn't gave that error anymore. My fonts are same size than Oldsmobile_mike has.

No fonts displayed though.

My system is prety much standard BB1/2 though I have 1mb rom with additional filesystem support and best possible scsi.device. MCP and FBLit running.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline utri007

Re: We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2015, 10:08:15 PM »
True with friend_bimap:1 it seems to be stable. Without it, it usually starts, but crash quite soon. Seems that with -v or -V it causes more troubles, very random crashes and weird requests, graphics corruption to Window background pattern, etc
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD