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Offline TheretrogamingroomTopic starter

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A few questions to finish my A4000D + Toaster + Flyer Project
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:16:11 AM »
Hey guys, been a (very long) while!

I decided to pull out my Amiga 4000D from storage so that I can finally get her up and running! I started the project a couple of years ago, but school got in the way and... you know.

Anyways, question time!

1: What are the internal data cable pinouts for the Toaster 4K, Flyer, and Faroudja Y/C Plus cards? I have all of the ribbon cables, but I am not sure if they are installed correctly (I had to remove them to clean out the machine and do an upgrade). However, it's been so long that I have no idea.

2: I still need a mouse. I'm assuming that all of the Amiga Mice are compatible across the different models (A1K-A4KT)?

3: I also need a Video Toaster Flyer backplate. Is it possible to purchase on for a reasonable price, or would I be better off hacking a standard PC card backplate?

4: Is the power supply (especially as old as it is) even capable of running the 3 cards, 2 internal hard drives, a CD-RW drive, floppy drive, maxed out ram, and an 040 without any issues? I have no idea what the TDP of this machine would be, but I assume that the PSU isn't exactly very roomy.

5: Any way I can get some software/manuals for everything? The individual that I got everything from was supposed to send me everything, but forgot the manuals and CDs. Then he disappeared.

I'll probably add some more questions later.

Thanks!
Commodore 8-Bit: Vic-20, Plus/4, C16, C64, C128
Amiga: 500, 2000HD, 2500, 4000D+VT4K+Flyer
 

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Re: A few questions to finish my A4000D + Toaster + Flyer Project
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2014, 04:31:36 AM »
UPDATES (Including picture of setup coming together):

1: Attached is a picture of the current cabling setup. Again, I'm unsure if it is correct.

2: What was the original mouse for the A4000D? I'm assuming tank mice were used from day 1 to the very last 4000T, but IDK. Also- If anyone has any originals for sale, let me know.

3: Regarding the backplate- I just remembered that I already got one from Heiro a while back (thanks btw). I may still make one for the Toaster + Flyer setup for the external hard drive cables though (this one would be a lot easier- just a rectangle for the ribbon cables). That is, if I don't get an Octopus cable.

4: Anyone know the TDP, more or less?

5: Looks like discreetfx is the place to go. I might also need a copy of 3.9 and a new hard drive- it seems that every time I try to use any hard drive on any of my classic machines, they are usually dead. I haven't tried the one in the Amiga yet. *crosses fingers*

OTHER:

There is a reasonably good sized square cut out of the side of the case which apparently was originally cut for a joystick port (measuring 1.5" wide and 1.25" tall. You can see this in the picture). I could get a new panel (which would probably be very difficult, but let me know if you have one), OR... put something there? Maybe a fan to keep everything cool? Or perhaps find a way to bondo it?

There is also another small hole (.5" in diameter) on the back near where the cards go (also visible in the pic). Any idea what this was for?

I will also start Retr0brighting the case soon (once all of this rain goes away-about a week from now). All that really needs treatment is the floppy drive faceplate and the power button.

I plan on installing a socketed 3.6V battery to keep time. Thankfully, the old soldered Varta (or whatever it was) was removed from my system years ago, so the board is in good shape.

I will order some new SCSI hard drives (with adapters) for the Toaster + Flyer setup. My plan is to have the main system hard drive and audio drive for the cards installed inside the main case, and the two video hard drives in an external enclosure.

This machine has had the ROM, RAM, and CD drive upgraded. Any other (reasonable inexpensive) additions I should make? I was considering USB/PS2, but I'm unsure if I want to keep the machine fairly original, or if I should just go with the times.


I'll post some more updates as time goes by.
Commodore 8-Bit: Vic-20, Plus/4, C16, C64, C128
Amiga: 500, 2000HD, 2500, 4000D+VT4K+Flyer
 

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Re: A few questions to finish my A4000D + Toaster + Flyer Project
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 04:34:56 AM »
And here is a pic of how the setup is coming along (the Amiga will go below the TVs).
Commodore 8-Bit: Vic-20, Plus/4, C16, C64, C128
Amiga: 500, 2000HD, 2500, 4000D+VT4K+Flyer
 

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Re: A few questions to finish my A4000D + Toaster + Flyer Project
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2014, 04:46:09 AM »
Actually, its a D2- used by NewTek in the late 90's for diagnosis/repair purposes. I'm not sure whether or not I should take off the white sharpie on the back top of the case (which reads "Tech Support 12.98"), or if I should just leave it.

But yes, I'm getting a stand for the poor Amiga. A couple of TVs piled on the case probably wouldn't turn out very well! :P

Oh, and does anyone a diagram of how the cables should plug in to each card? I'm pretty sure I have all of the cables, I just need to know which ports they plug into to/from each card, if they plug in facing up or down, etc.)
Commodore 8-Bit: Vic-20, Plus/4, C16, C64, C128
Amiga: 500, 2000HD, 2500, 4000D+VT4K+Flyer