who is Rogue? One of Hyperion?
Correct
If so then I think you are indulging in wishful thinking
ExecSG, the kernel of OS4, has been seen by many people to run on an A1. It is the core of the OS, and contains (in the HAL) virtually all of the platform dependent code. That was a while ago, and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot more is working on it now. But seeing how they've been shot down in flames before, Rogue is currently not visiting Amiga forums. I don't know what The_Editor's sources are, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true.
if Hyperion had OS4 booting on an A1 they would firstly not
be pussy footing with getting OS4 on the god forsaken PPC cards, (burn another 6 months),
Do you know much about the process of migrating AOS to PPC? The PPC equipped "Classic" Amigas still have custom chips etc, therefore any port to PPC will be finished first on them. If Hyperion were to release the A1 version first, then they'd have to hold back a complese CSPPC version for a while. Great.
I saw OS4 on an A4000 at WOASE last autumn, a tour of this is no news and its not OS4 on an A1,
What you saw was OS4 modules on 68k AmigaOS. The OS4 tour had OS4 modules on ExecSG - a very nearly complete OS4.
when developers create even a prototype be it a car or a computer or an OS they will parade it at every chance, they will shout it from the rooftops, I dont see that, because: its not happened!
If they did that with everything, certain people would:
1) Get fed up
2) Claim that they're not making enough progress based on what they've done before
Hyperion are a small company - they don't have the money for serious PR.
remember how Eyetech would show off the A1 at every chance, long before the Earlybird, they even had photos of their PCBs on their website back in 2001 (I think),
And now people can look back at those, and wonder "Why did they waste time on those designs?"
Ben has vanished from the scene he used to be ever present on ann.lu,
Simply because of all the pressure and insults he was getting there. Some people from Hyperion have even abandoned Amigaworld.net (generally a very peaceful forum).
why dont they learn from Hack and Patch that PPC cards are a lose-lose thing
Tell that to all the Amigans who spent loads of money on them.
with OS4 the only original work I see is some tweaks to intuition and workbench, the rest is all ports and 3rd party work eg AmiDock, :just recycling other peoples work, if OS4 ever comes out it is going to be such an anti climax, still its based on the original source code so it must be wonderful.
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Perhaps you've been mislead - I'll explain;
Hyperion have
re-written the AOS kernelThey have created an integrated emulation solution
which many believed impossibleWhole modules like AmigaDOS have been
completely re-implemented in portable CNo OS3.5/3.9 source code was avalible - Hyperion had to go from 3.1.
With a handfull of people and meagre rescources, the work they have done is amazing. OS4 is not "just" a recompile from PPC - it's as big a difference from 3.x as that was from 1.x.
The fact that after 2 years a games company cannot show us OS4 on A1, proves to me that OS's are much more difficult than games, the OS is not a game, GAME OVER Hyperion, 0 points,
Exactly - do you think they expected to manage it quickly?
The arrogance from Amiga central is so sad, Berndt and Ralph are years ahead of them, so is UAE, cloanto, 3rd party cybergraphics.library pisses on graphics.library, etc there is a whole roomful of people ahead of the official Amiga,
Cloanto and UAE ahead of OS4? You make me laugh :lol:
Cloanto make a UAE bundle. UAE is an emulator, not an OS. Berndt's Amithlon is no way as complex as OS4, as it's still based largely on the 68k code. And what relevence does CGX have? OS4 uses P96, which is 100% compatible.
my A1200 would be moth-balled if it werent for a 3rd party 68030 accelerator,
So why were you earlier complaining about the use of 3rd party stuff?
Feel free to reply, but if this turns into a flamefest I'm out of here.
