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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« on: March 21, 2012, 09:07:36 PM »
The thing that irks me is that they claim that this is the first new "amiga" for however many years. What about the X1000. Or every other sodding project that has been running for however long.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 01:14:13 AM »
Yup its a undeniable fact that people WILL buy these computers. Either due to nostalgia, wanting a 'unique' product or simply because they have more money than they know what to do with.
 
To me it all feels like Commodore Gaming all over again. Except Commodore Gaming gave us some original cases and better graphics cards. :smack:

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 01:23:15 AM »
The card they are supplying is essentially a really nice HTPC card. I wouldn't push it to do anything more than that really.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 03:22:48 AM »
The packard bell box computer I owned at one point had a 300 PSU in it and that was powering a core 2 duo and some slimline graphics card. And that was from a computer that cost £500. PSU's aren't expensive and a trip to Maplin can see you walking out with a 700 PSU (http://www.maplin.co.uk/700w-black-cit-atx-power-supply-with-12cm-silent-fan-264565) for £40. This is obviously for a full ITX PSU but HTPC PSU's are still only around £60-£100 depending on needed power.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 05:50:40 PM »
Found a nice computer and it's cheaper http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/Evolution-3930K-OC-4-5Ghz-94p1243.htm and all I need is one of those AmigaKit boing ball stickers and a copy of Ubuntu/Mint. Awesome :)

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 08:42:12 PM »
They have knocked $500 off the price after only a few days. Is this the introductory prices they were meant to sell at?

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2012, 06:03:03 AM »
I have said it before but I will say it again. There will be people who buy these machines. They will buy them from either a nostalgia stand point, because they genuinly believe that these are good computers, from the brand name or because they have the money to blow on one of these computers.
 
That's what CUSA will be banking on. I bet they will have a few hundered orders simply from this recent price drop. Because people will believe that they are getting a good deal from it.
 
They will probably sell enough in the long run to keep them around for a while longer anyway. Or until Barry moves onto something else.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2012, 06:28:59 PM »
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So whoever called this as a reseller scam, give yourself a pat on the back. Then have a good laugh at Barry for thinking anyone will be dumb enough to fall for it.


Wasn't it Darrin who recently mentioned stuff to do with this?

I am a little confused as to why he doesn't want to sell anything other than the Vic Mini in "big box" store. I cant see competition having very much to do with it.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2012, 07:38:48 PM »
Be interesting to see what comes back from it.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2012, 08:04:51 PM »
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OSX is a fancy UI sitting on a Darwin UNIX distribution. I wonder what you'd make of OSX if it was based on the an Ubuntu or Debian core (and thus has better driver support, more software and is entirely, as opposed to part, open source)?


And the award for the least original use of the Apple card goes to....

Just kidding. But I don't get where your coming from.

@Darin
Again it would be interesting to see what comes from all this.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2012, 08:31:33 PM »
More on the reseller thing. Leo just posted this.

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There will be a more formalised agreement with dealers....but these are pretty much the basics.

All responsibilities, such as hardware support and warranties, are entirely on the dealers of course....should something go wrong.
I also imagine there will be a clause about conformance to various price structures, particularly when the same components are used that we do.

Support for Commodore OS Vision on any machine whatsoever would be up to the dealers.
(even if identical to our own configurations)
I also imagine that the dealers will be able to obtain Commodore OS cheaply from us, in a manner yet to be determined.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2012, 11:07:30 PM »
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"With the exception the VIC Slim, we do not intend to sell our current prebuilt products to any of the large "Big Box" retailers. Our resellers/configurators will have no competition in their locations, as we will limiting the amount of dealers in any one specific area. "

Erm, what happened to the plan that these things would be available on store shelves everywhere?  :lol:

Lol didn't you read the memo. They don't want competition on their own products.

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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2012, 04:45:09 PM »
nVidias own specs say this

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Thermal and Power Specs:
98  C Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)
49  W Maximum Graphics Card Power (W)
300  W Minimum System Power Requirement (W)
(http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-430/specifications)

And some Guru3d.com specs
(http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt-430-review/5)

Everything I read about this card says a 300w PSU at a min. It's interesting that Guru says full system load, under complete stress, is 242W. A few other give a roundish number of 180w. Also you have to factor in CPU load and any USB devices connected.

While I don't think it would go pop if overloaded, isn't it powered from an external power brick?, I do think it may run into stability issues. Plus some heat stress.
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Re: The Best Things Come In Small Packages
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 09:34:12 AM »
The only pic I have ever seen of the bottom of one of their products is this



Note the complete system not tested. take what you will from that.