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Re: I think.........
« on: December 03, 2011, 04:58:08 AM »
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These "Amiga is Dead" threads show up every few months here and on other Amiga sites. They are a complete waste of time, unless you want to use one of them to motivate people to change their behavior toward participating in some kind of Amiga development, or project (which is not the case in this thread).

I have to agree with this. But considering the thread is now established and we are engaging in discussion I might aswell jot my thoughts down.
 
To me the Amiga and Commodore will always live on so long as people still enjoy them. But I do feel it's time to let the brands, from a mainstream sales point, die and get the rest it deserves. Instead it's like the computing equivelent of Big Brother it gets dug up, dusted off, new clothes and a spot of makup to cover over the rotting holes from the last time it was abused and then tarted around as if it's the next best thing in computing. I mean how many times have we seen it where someone or some company come along and says they are the best chance for a ressurection and continuation.
 
To me the pockets of Amiga and Commodore communities dotted around the globe are doing a much better job of this. And, regardless of what some will say, I have a lot of respect for the people involved in such projects as AROS, MorphOS, OS4, X1000, classics and so forth.

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Re: I think.........
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 02:16:00 PM »
@Middleman
Welcome. Been bad with flu otherwise I would have welcomed you sooner.

I love a CUSA bashing thread as much as the next but this is really not the thread to do it in so I am not going to really pursue it. All I will say is that there is plenty of evidence laying around this site, amigaworld.net and c-a.org (if you can work out how to get the search function to work on it) about the whole AROS thing.

But in any case moving swiftly awaaaaaayyyyyy from this lol :)

FPGA is a way forward with the Amiga. It's certainly cheap enough and offers enough versatility to make it a very interesting.

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Re: I think.........
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 03:06:49 AM »
Digiman you have unleashed a monster. But a good kind of monster as it brought a good bit of debating to the forum. Been actually an ineteresting read.

If we are talking hypothetically now then here is what I would like to see. A system that is powerful and uses new and interesting tech but doesn't cost the world. That has the os to match, been responsive and speedy without needing the resources of a small nation to run. Its has to be a joy to use on a daily basis and not feel like a chore everytime you look at the screen.

But I know this won't happen.

Now this is a view that I have never shared with anyone beyond a few tech geek friends over a beer. If Commodore was still around today, in their original form, I think they would probably be into the tablet market right now. The scope for new and creative tech in this section of the computing world would have been right up their ally in my view. I could quite easily see the Amiga spirit been put to good use with these devices. Imagine if something like the amiga architecture, but obviously a modernised version, running in a tablet form. Along with a modernised Workbench os to go with it.

Call it daft but this is were I feel Commodore would have gone. Or maybe even into the server side of things.

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Re: I think.........
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 03:41:49 AM »
Now this is where I would have to disagree with you. When tablets first came out I would have agreed that they were gimicky and appealed to the "Oh look how futuristic I look" geeks. They were clunky, awkward to use and weren't all that powerful. Now though, as both the technology and software behind them is starting mature they are having more of an impact. I know they wouldn't replace a full desktop computer. But I can see their appeal growing more and more.
 
And I can still see Commodore, if they were still around, venturing into this branch of the market. Making affordable, yet powerful, hardware and software.

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Re: I think.........
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 04:16:44 AM »
I have to stress that my view has no solid basis and is just hypothetical at best based on what Commodore would have done if it was still around in my own little imaginery bubble lol. And that would have been both desktop/laptop hardware and tablet hardware.
 
I loved the Amiga not only for it's hardware and software but also for how it impacted in my personal computing world. Regardless of the leaps and bounds it represented in the wider computing world. It's one of only two computers I have ever actually ever felt completely, 100%, no questions asked comfortable with. And the other computer was a C64 that my dad bought only a few months before I was born in 82 :)
 
Everything else I have liked but never truely loved the same way.
 
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Nope. They've improved, but considering the stunted baseline they started from, that's not saying much. You can pile on the improvements as much as you like, but they're still going to be a laptop someone's chopped the keyboard off of.

I think it's just a slow starter in technological life. They are still tinkering with what makes them tick and it doesn't help that the playfield keeps shifting so wildly with every new step forward. Which is why I think it would have been interesting to see how Commodore would have approached this.
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Re: I think.........
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 06:01:16 AM »
Hmmm maybe not eh. There is a difference between been Commodore and only having its name. And the USA outfit is a name only affair as far as I am concerned as it shares nothing with its namesake. But let's not bicker about this anyway because its too early in the morning to really be bothered. ;)

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Thanks for the link. Didn't think you were joking but its always good to post some linkage :D
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Re: I think.........
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 09:40:25 PM »
A 4gb 386... That would be worth seeing lol.

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Re: I think.........
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 11:27:25 PM »
I can't help but imagine what my 66mhz 486 DX2 would have been like with 4 gb of ram lol. Would have been awesome. Not as awesome as my Amiga but still pretty awesome.
 
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I would buy another 486 pc so I could run some of the old DOS games. Plenty of games I wanted to get into but never actually bought. That si if they were reasonably priced.

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Re: I think.........
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 05:58:43 AM »
Seems like Leo is trying to reach out to the communities... Wonder why it hasn't turned up on here but oh well time for some linkies
 
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34729&forum=17