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Someone please help me out here
« on: June 30, 2005, 02:28:46 AM »
Hi
Ok after much hard work and serious problems recently with ata3 software and them my whole os3.9 boot partition needing a fresh install i have questions.Well since ive never been able to get the iomega ide zip drive to work under trackdisk.device like it says in the manual.Elbox say it doesnt need a mountlist if it is formatted in ffs but then others tell me it does.So now with a fresh install im open to hearing if anyone on here actually has a zip drive working with a powerflyer and how they actually did it or if they use a mountlist or not.In the ata3prefs my zip drive is master on channel two and it appears in HD toolbox also.
My drive works because i tried it in my pc although even though i did re install 3.9 i still cant get any latest powerflyer software to work other than the original one i used which was 6.3 or something.
Well i hope this time things work out as its been so annoying and even elbox cant seem to help me out from the looks of things.
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 03:32:33 AM »
Im so sick of this crap with power flyers and zip drives and elbox not even having a clue about it.The drive acts like a hard disk if i change the tool type to scsi.device but of course i cant change disks unless i switch the machine off.If i change it to trackdisk.device nothing happens there with that.If i do what the great manual says and not put a mountlist in the dos drivers folder then nothing happens there either.Then to top it off the new version of ata3.driver doesnt work for me and all my partitions vanish apart from three.I replace the old driver and then they all come back,yesterday for some reason my drive just totally crashed and i couldnt get in to it at all after mucking around with all that ata3 crap.So then that called for me to do a fresh install which i thought might be best anyways.But yeah nothing has changed and my partitions still vanish and the same problems with the zip drive.Ive really had it i mean i have been trying to figure this out for ages and people tell me to install it diffrent ways so i dont even get a simple response there either.It makes me wonder at times why i bother but i still try and figure it out but for all teh hassle it has caused me maybe i should just quit with amiga for a few month......
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2005, 04:08:43 AM »
Thanks for the reply.
WEell i hit the install button and it installs the drive but then it just acts like a hard drive so i cant remove a disk...
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2005, 04:32:59 AM »
Well yeah i know i can do that but thats the thign though according to elbox you can change disks while the computer is on.

Well when i remove the disk the icon stays on the screen so if insert a new one it doesnt appear.
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2005, 07:46:55 PM »
@ Doctorq
Well that doesnt compare realyl because its not like ive just asked something stupid like,why is my zip not working.I have went in to detail god knows how many times even to elbox who dont even have an answer about there own software.


@MattH

Well i tried what you said abotu the mount and the first time i clicked on it nothing happend really.Then the drive just locked up after a few attempts and then the second time it just says,rigid disk block not found.

Well i will try anything that people tell me but im starting lose hope because the fact is according to elbox it should work right away without any mountlist.
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 12:41:41 AM »
@ Matt
Which should be trackdisk.device,correct??? iotools asks me what buffer size my controller is so how do i find that out??
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 03:32:20 AM »
What about this disk change?put that in startup or something?could you tell me a little more and what exaclty to write?
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2005, 05:00:57 AM »
@ MattH
Yeah thats what elbox also tell me in there emails that hot swapping is only supported by trackdisk.device....
Well the default size is 0x0 in iotools which is why it asks me the size but i have no idea...
Well its past 5am here so i will see how it goes tomorrow but if anyone has anything to add here then please do.
Thanks for all the help so far...
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 06:26:16 AM »
@MattH
In the manual it say media such as ls120 and zip drives that you must change the tooltype to trackdisk.device.Then they tell you how the powerflyer/ata3.driver should automount the zip drive using trackdisk.device...
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 09:33:04 PM »
Oh i dunno this is a never ending battle of trying to get something simple to work but it wont for some weird reason.I mean really i am feeling a bit like i just am almost losing the fun aspect of using my amiga.With me trying to figure this out for so long i actually forgot the last time i actually used my amiga for something fun.Recently the only reason i have been powering my amiga up is to do tests for elbox or some other reason.Since my drive had crashed i ended up losing a lot of work that i had done such as settings for all my mediator cards.So i have a lot of work to do really which i felt like i just got fed up with it really.I dont know if i could be pushed to sell it and buy myself a new windows box since i am running an old 450mhz pII machine....
Oh well just see how it goes i suppose but cheers for all the help lads even though im still no further forward and elbox havent replied recently.
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2005, 05:48:57 AM »
Thanks for the replys people :)
It is so hard because im not sure what i should use?Should i use trackdisk.device or scsi.device?
Well i used the zic file and a drive appears on screen using a Hard drive icon but has a shadow over it and says,Zic:uninitialized..So how would i format this?Second of all how do i find out if the zip actually has an icon to show up on screen???
Then when i try and use iotools and if i click on any function i get the following,Failed to obtain the disk status from the scsi.device,unit 2.
Error : packet request type unknown..now i usualy get tehat same message if i use teh zip dos driver or zic but with trackdisk.device i get nothing at all.
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2005, 03:32:55 PM »
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2005, 01:49:19 AM »
Cheers for the reply mate :)
Well my A1200 is as follows,A1200,3.1 rom,Blizzard1260/50mhz,128mb,scsi add on board for blizz,mediator sx,voodoo3,sound blaster128,tv card,network card...My zip drive is a iomega zip 100 ide drive connected to the second channel on my power flyer.My first slot has a 30gb hard drive as master and cdrw as slave.
Thats my whole system right there but also rememebr i cant get the new ata3 software to work either.Oh i just wrote bump to bump my post back on the main board..
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2005, 04:18:24 AM »
@Stew
Well when i eject the disk and change it for another it just comes up "checksum error" when i click the icon so i cant access it like that....
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Re: Someone please help me out here
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2005, 02:39:58 AM »
Hi there
Well i have took a break from my amiga as it was just doing my head in with starting from scratch almost.Well the way i see it is that i get an icon on screen under "scsi.device" but not under "trackdisk.device" .
Well i have the zic and zip dos driver in devs and i get a hard drive like icon on screen with a shadow over it saying it is uninitialized.
So if i try and format the disk i get a message saying error 254...So does anyone know what root i should take from here?The zic file is under scsi.device..
Thanks for the offer on the zip drive and i would have taking the offer if i had anymore hardware for my scsi adaptor but at this moment i dont.
Cheers for all the help so far...
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