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That reminds me, can ya mail me your address so I can come to pick up what we discussed?
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2003, 06:35:45 PM »
Now, just need to convince the in-laws to loan me one of their 4 trucks so I can pick it up.

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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2003, 07:05:40 PM »
I have a CD-32 already.  I want to see a warehouse filled with A3000+'s personally.
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2003, 03:29:08 AM »
@Lo

I know of about 4 more out there.
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2003, 03:29:49 AM »
@Jose

The A3000+'s real boost was the DSP, which gave it Pentium 3-800Mhz level performance... in 1992.
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2003, 06:50:05 PM »
@-D-

A DSP is not the same as a CPU, how it's math results are measured do not come up equal.  Let's dig up the AT&T DSP3210 performance specs here for a moment:

The AT&T DSP3210 is capable of 12.5 million instructions per section, 25 million floating point operations per second according to Dave Haynie.  Yes folk, that's SIMD for ya.  Each instruction does 2 math operations.  All of these, 32-bit floating-point.  No intermix of 8 or 16-bit here, simplified the design.  But real world tests reveal the same DSP getting 16.7 MIPS / 33MFLOPS.  The DSP3210 was introduced in 1991, back when 386's were still speed-kings.  And a 386 can't even do a single MFLOP.

Now, the 68030 does 1.3 MFLOPS @ 50Mhz.  The 68040-25 did about twice that, at 2.4 MFLOPS  The Pentium 2 gets 9 MFLOPS @ 450Mhz.  So looks like I am right here.

As for audio, the DSP3210 was not limited to audio, nor was it ever intended to be limited to audio.  They had an audio chip that was to run alongside it (from Crystal Semiconductor or Analog Devices) for audio.

As well, the DSP3210 continued to be evolved, with 55Mhz, 66Mhz,  and even 80Mhz models arriving.  But it ended it's life in 1999, along with all of Lucent's 32-bit DSP solutions.  Sad really.  It could have given the Amiga a real shot in the arm.
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2003, 12:15:14 AM »
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I pulled my figured right from overclockers websites for 32-bit MFLOP.  What bit-depth are those numbers, because they look like 8 or 16-bit to me.
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2003, 12:27:14 AM »
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But did the benchmarking programs state as such?  I made very well sure the spec I grabbed said so.  (Mind you, it also said "L2 cache disabled" on the P2)  It's an old trick to run smaller/faster code to inflate a benchmark.  (I remember old coders that ran the 68000 in 16-bit mode, which ment it executed 150% faster from the benchmark's angle)
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Re: Teaser: Another purchase made, more NOS equipment on the way!
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2003, 12:33:18 AM »
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I'd also appreciate some P2-450 scores with the L2 engaged.  I know that the FSB and memory access would kill the perf without it.
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