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Re: Wheres the bottleneck genesi? MAI?
« on: January 27, 2003, 11:13:25 PM »
Mai offered 400 at CES.  Now, let's do things from how businesses actually work:

Sales offer is made.
between 3 to 10 business days later, the offer is accepted.  Takes that long to make sure that you've got the back-end (that is, the April fix and plain Pegasos boards) ready.
Now, here's the fun part.  Once accepted, then payment is made.  Can take between 2 business days to 30 business days for a bank to process such a payment.  Oh joy, oh rapture.  Remind me why I love banks.
Then, Mai has 30 business days to deliver these chips.  Usually takes less, but has that much time availible to them.

So, we're talking between a week to 3 months for them to get the Articia chips, depending on how the order goes, and half of the process is not under Mai's nor Genesi's control.

I don't know where in this process we're at, but I can ask for you.
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Re: Wheres the bottleneck genesi? MAI?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2003, 02:14:38 AM »
What world are you living in, because that's not how businesses work.

IBM orders, let's say, 100 reams of inkjet paper.  They've got a revolving credit line with their distributor, so they get the paper shipped out the day it's ordered.  So, delivered in 2-6 days.

But that's IBM, not Genesi or Mai.  We don't know if Mai's chips are in-stock or to-be-produced or not.  That's why I put up an honest timeline there.  Believe it or not, but that is the highly variable world of business commerce.

Be glad it's not dealing with the government, could take years to get the chips.
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Re: Wheres the bottleneck genesi? MAI?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2003, 02:29:10 AM »
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SImple. I want a Mac, I go buy it, I get it the next day.

That works, if you're buying *1*.

Now, go to the Apple store and order 400.

See if you can get it the next day.
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Re: Wheres the bottleneck genesi? MAI?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2003, 03:59:55 AM »
@MarkTime

I'd point out, however, that you're putting words and actions into other companies mouths.  Frankly, you don't know when Genesi ordered nor how many of what chips.  You're assuming that Genesi failed to order the chips when you've gotten no clue what's actually going on here. You don't know if Genesi has ordered the chips, or when they were ordered.  Frankly, at this point, nobody knows if they're sticking to Mai or not.  Bill has hinted that they might be getting rid of Mai if problems persist.  

You're not using macro-economics here.  If Genesi did order chips back in october, let's say 1000 to be a fair lot, and Mai failed to deliver in a timely manner, then offered a limited-number of older/crippled chips, is that Genesi's fault?  

I say let's give them a chance.  Eyetech isn't exactly shipping A1's at a high pace either.  Genesi's at least sold-out of it's first batch of boards, a fairly impressive stat in this community.  Let's give both a chance here to succeed.
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