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Sony's Cell chip for a New Amiga
« on: December 09, 2011, 09:19:19 AM »
...do you think it's possible? Discuss!
 

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Re: Sony's Cell chip for a New Amiga
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 10:49:18 AM »
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The chip is basically junk. It was designed with the idea of having the gfx processing done on the CPU... But it didn't really work and needed a proper GPU to go with it. At 6 years old, I'll bet the new quad core ARM SoCs would out perform it using much less power.

Hmm I doubt it. I personally think that there's still some life left in the Cell, especially when its been upgraded to the PowerXCell 8i. Consider that the Zego server is able to display at 4K, that's still something quite powerful and something an Amiga user 'could' put to full use...
 

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Re: Sony's Cell chip for a New Amiga
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 06:33:16 AM »
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Windows 8 will also have a release on ARM.
 
But both are to pedestrian compared to £400 i7 PC right now let alone in the future years.
 
IMO just convert OS4 to x86-64bit and be done with it.

Maybe, but what about Amithlon?
Apparently there's an 'Amithlon Revival Project' going on right now....
 
> http://code.google.com/p/amithlon-revival/
 

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Re: Sony's Cell chip for a New Amiga
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 05:17:18 PM »
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Hi,

No discussion needed, next monthe go to http://www.maximumpc.com and go back into their magazine archives, and read the article "The state of GPU computing". The reason I am telling you this, is because I know that most of you are to cheap to buy the mag, so you can read it for free, because they have it in pdf format on their website, why listen to a bunch of think it know it alls from around the world, when maximumpc puts it through it's paces and tells you tested results. In other words it is not hear say from a bunch of know it alls from around the world, some that have a hard time just getting electricity.

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Thanks Smerf, I'll have a look...
 

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Re: Sony's Cell chip for a New Amiga
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2011, 02:04:40 AM »
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My thoughts are that If an OS can handle a single core then it can be architected to handle multiple cores. Even if it is via loosely coupled multiple OS instances running in there own segregated resource pools per task, it can still be done.  With time and effort. The challenges would be around the integration of display and hardware access.  But nothing different than the same challenges on virtual host OSes.

Imagine a multi threaded Amiga OS running on current CPU and GPU hardware and us doing the things that we do on Mac and PC today.  Mmmm Power.  I'd buy that for a dollar.

==Exactly! That's what we need for today....

But what is it going to take for us to get there? The closest thing I can see right now (where we can truly run AmigaOS 'natively' on x86 hardware so to speak) is the Umilator/Amithlon project. But that's been on hold for so long (with its legal issues mainly between Bernie and H&P) it is literally killing the market (and the real future) of AmigaOS...

Sometimes I just wish in my mind all these people would 'grow up' and start acting civil for once. They need to understand that 'greed' is not going to get them anywhere, but only mutual respect, giving what others deserve, and through teamwork ie. collaboration. I look at the issue that because of greed, it has prevented any of the involved parties (H&P, Bernie, Amiga, Hyperion) from making any money the past decade. Have they thought about that? Not the greed itself, but the potential income they 'didn't make' because of a single argument or threats of legal action.

I would daresay the key to all of this mess lies with H&P. Had it not been their aggressive stance, refusal to pay Amiga Inc. and Bernie his dues, we wouldn't be in this mess today. If we were lucky we'd probably even see loads of Commodore retail stores, Commodore-branded tablets, systems and phones by this time now.....