CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney

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This is just marketing - and honestly a pretty decent marketing move assuming enough people actually read those inserts.  Still have to ship product at some point - otherwise it really doesn't matter how much you spend on print.

The C64x is being launched April 5th, same day as the DVD.

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That's reason enough to buy one. Lots of stuff would be schnazzy in a C64 box.

I agree, I have always liked the shape.

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Pretty much this, but that is exactly why I do mourn this kind of thing - these people come along touting their wares as if they're actually a replacement for the Amiga, and then half the people here get so doe-eyed at the sight of shiny baubles! that they will smile and nod and go along with absolutely anything their new sugar-daddy wants, just because they're so obsessed with the idea that it's totally a real product again, now nobody can make fun of me for using an old computer.

So they stand around applauding like idiots, the stubborn old cranks reinforce their commitment to never trusting anything or anyone ever again, and people like me who would actually like to see a new Amiga product but aren't willing to pretend that commodity Intel hardware in a nice case is totally the same thing as a classic home computer are left with nowhere to turn.

So it should be banned and not discussed? Everyone should stick their fingers in their ears and yell LALALALALALALALALALA as loud as they can? Only "teh true Amiga" should be discussed? The problem with that is "teh true Amiga" is a moving target.

The Kommunity went through the same thing with PUP/WUP, Amithlon, AROS, MorphOS, OS4, emulation etc etc. Every time something new came about there was a portion of the Kommunity who wanted it censored at best or the people involved hanged at worst.

What is happening right now with CUSA news is nothing new. There is a portion of the Kommunity who wants to castigate anyone who dares acknowledge CUSA's existence or speculate on upcoming projects.

This isn't a religion.

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Did Fake Commodore write VICE? No!

So don't give me such bullshit, I have been involved in real C64 software for a decade and you fancy Linux PC makes no difference to people like me OR ANYONE ELSE. VICE emulator or others have been around for 15 years now.

And stop inferring your pissant company is going to write a new Amiga compatible OS a la AROS for your x86 'Amiga' machines too please.

You know Dammy and I predicted this sort of over the top venom and rage months ago. If you are getting this angry now, you really might want to turn off the monitor and go on vacation for a couple weeks because you will have a complete and total meltdown soon.

You would think someone from CUSA kicked your pregnant wife in the stomach or tried to burn down your church. Really people THIS IS A COMPUTER, NOT A RELIGION. Nothing can change what Jay Miner and the original Amiga team accomplished. The amiga-like variants of MorphOS, AROS, OS4 etc will continue to exist. If you have no use for the product and don't get it, you don't buy it. I don't get this end of the world reaction at all.

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If you predicted the "rage" months ago then why did you continue with the plan to bastardize the Amiga name with this non-Amiga product?

Darrin,
I do not work for CUSA and AFAIK Dammy does not either. I live within 5 miles of CUSA and Dammy about 50 iirc. Location has given us the opportunity to meet with Barry and get a little information on plans. Times never change. When I bought a Pegasos I back in 2003 I was labeled a Genesi employee and a Bill Buck lap dog. This time I haven't even purchased anything, just passed on a tiny bit of information and I am being labeled the same way and by some people who should know better.

Nobody would be upset if it was a range of "Commodore" branding products  covering PCs, Android Tablets, Emulator packages, etc.  It is  hi-jacking of the Amiga name which is still alive and kicking and  plastering it on non-Amiga products for apparently no other reason than  sticking it to Hyperion.  Was this part of the agreement with Amiga Inc?

Why is Commodore brand any different than the Amiga brand? Hyperion went to court and got what seems like a very favorable settlement. Hyperion could have done the exact same thing as CUSA but they did not. Business is business and AFAIK Hyperion is irrelevant to CUSA's plans. Irrelevant is a far cry from sticking it to Hyperion.

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   Quote:
                                                      Originally Posted by Argo                             
             Oddly, the world didn't end when Commodore introduced the Colt. Think of it like that.

http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/cpcs.html
                         
 Probably because they didn't put an "Amiga" sticker on it.       

Your history is a little weak Darrin. You seem to forget the Bridgeboard pre-installed in many big box Amigas. You also seem to forget the A3000UX which came with only Unix at some dealers.

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Ooh look Mummy, another sock puppet!

Can we keep it? Can we? Can we?

We have been very tolerant of opinions, but comments like this really are personal attacks.

Everyone, you can be as negative as you wish but PLEASE refrain from personal attacks.

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And if I remember right, Redrumloa was also initially skeptical, posting an image of Barry's Florida home  

I was pretty harsh about his early missteps. Harsh is probably putting it kindly as I really drew the ire of Barry and made him perform another misstep:lol: I never did post a picture of his home though. I joked about doing it but I never did it. For the record Barry has a very nice house.

Barry is a real business man, assembling a real team and is laying down real money. Will he ultimately succeed or fail? I can't say. I will agree that many assessments are off base and seem almost religious in nature.

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So, once again, these Commodore tablets are about as "Amiga" as my grandmother's tits.  End of story.

Wrong thread, this thread is about C= partnering with Disney. The Amiga branded tablets are a pretty much speculation atm.

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What kind of a background check do you think they can do on a company that isn't shipping any products?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetting
 
Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering him or her employment, conferring an award, etc. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness

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So again, who are they aiming at? PC users who want an 80s case?

There is value in a name and likeness. If the cards are played out right, former and current users will buy one. Current users will be a smallish number, former users could be a much greater number. It could also appeal to people who appreciate the retro look.
 
Do what I am doing, sit back and enjoy the show as a casual observer. You will witness one of two things.
 
1) Rebirth of a brand name and identity.
2) A spectacular failure on a big stage for the world to see.

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I'm not convinced there is value in the name/likeness in 2011. It's seen as a brand of the 80s, I think what's been mistaken here is nostalgia "aww man I loved my Amiga/C64, playing Sensi Soccer and Golden Axe lol!" dreaming of long summers as a kid with your friends.
 
In the same way people might reminisce about being into Rick Astley, or New Kids and wearing parachute pants and rara skirts, nostalgic memories are one thing, people look back fondly on them, but it doesn't mean they want a wardrobe full of shoulder pads and miami vice suits 30 years on.

Do you remember how well the "New Beetle" sold when it was launched? The New Beetle had nothing to do with the original VW Bug except a vague likeness. The New Beetle was essentially a VW Golf with a 20-30% markup over the Golf.

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I wonder what these numbers will be after people start opening their TRON DVD?

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why not, it fits perfectly... from the marketing, to the execution, right down to the price and brand awareness. You couldn't find a better example to compare with, C64x and Fiat 500 or New Beetle.

I was a big time fanboy of air cooled VWs at the time so I remember it well. When it was released I strongly disliked it and refused to buy one since it was not what I wanted from a "New Beetle" but I didn't go on the internet and start a hate campaign against VW. Years later I bought a VW Golf even though I still dislike the New Beetle.

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the truth is that the New Beetle was nothing special(Golf mk4 platform, pretty shabby plastics

Exactly and don't forget the 20-30% mark up compared to the Golf. It was not a very good car for the price, yet VW couldn't keep them on the lot they sold so fast.