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Re: Why are we all not doing this and making loads of money
« on: March 19, 2008, 09:21:02 PM »
Piracy in it's worst form.
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Re: Why are we all not doing this and making loads of money
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 11:17:19 PM »
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Whenever I see this hypocrite kind of thread it reminds me that I definitely should get one of those CDs / DVDs.....


Who here sells pirate software? No one, Amiga.org TOS does not allow it.

Come to think of it if he is including UAE he must be including ROMS too. Violation of Amiga Inc IP (in thoery) and certainly Amiga Forever license.

I cannot believe anyone would condone piracy for money at the expense of legitimate software houses like Cloanto :pissed:
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Re: Why are we all not doing this and making loads of money
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 11:58:29 PM »
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4,300 games that are all PD is suspiscious at best and stealing the ROMs for use with WinUAE is definately against eBay policy and copyright laws.  


PD my ass! :-P

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Thousands of classics such as Sensible Soccer, Speedball2, Chaos Engine, Superfrog, Banshee, Settlers, Pinball Dreams, Cannon Fodder, Lemmings, Flashback, Wings, Alien Breed and many more are included on this classic collection.


It just another pirate CD seller. Probably a lazy one that downloaded a torrent and did no real work himself. I have stated that speaking for myself, I have no problem with truly ancient abandonware software being available online in some circumstances, but selling it for a hefty profit? No way.

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Does anyone here really think this guy is creative? Making money on eBay or anywhere else is difficult, trust me I know. I could real easily download a few torrents of Amiga games, burn to a CD and sell them on eBay for nearly 100% profit. Anyone could except for 2 small issues.

1) Morality
2) Legality

He'll get shut down and shortly later some other lazy guy wanting a quick buck will start.
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Re: Why are we all not doing this and making loads of money
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 12:02:03 AM »
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Well, Elbox advertises and posts here, and they're apparently in violation of the terms of the GPL, which is, in effect, software piracy. I can't confirm that, though. Has anyone requested source code from Elbox and been ignored and/or denied?


I cannot speak for Elbox, only Wayne handles advertising. Besides I am not aware of GPL violations, I may not even understand one if I saw it  :oops:
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Re: Why are we all not doing this and making loads of money
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2008, 07:55:29 PM »
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I don't think anyone buys Amiga Forever because of the licensed ROMs. People pay for the nice out of the box package Cloanto has created. I don't think that any pirated software will hurt cloantos sales by 0.01 $ (unless it is AmigaForever itself of course).


I'd have to differ with this statement and yes I mean Amiga Forever. In 2004 I personally sold exactly 100 official copies of Amiga Forever. If my company lasted longer than it did, I'm sure I would have sold more. Most of the people buying this pirate CD are getting it for the pirate roms and emulator and I'd also venture to say many of them are unsophisticated buyers who do not understand what they are buying is illegal. Every copy of this pirate CD sold is likely a copy of Amiga Forever that will never be sold.

As I've said before, I personally don't have a problem with truly ancient abandonware being available online for download. I do have a problem with selling pirate compilations, especially when it includes commercially viable software.
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