I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

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> And still no update on amiga.com.. sigh

Why? There is no update on genesi.lu either. Only bbrv or someone who pretends to be him trolling around in some online forum. But I also would appreciate an executive update from Bill McEwen which clarifies everything.

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That's why they want OS4 running on it too, because many developers (and early adopters) in this talanted community makes that OS their first choice.

If thats true, why dont they simply get a license for Os4 like they originally intented to do? Why do they always think their are something better than other companies?

Dont get me wrong, I would like to see Os4 on pegasos, too. But not in the way that bill buck takes over amiga and the only official "amiga" will be the pegasos and there will be no A1s anymore. Maybe bbrv is afraid of the microaone because it might be as cheap as or cheaper than the pegasos and so he wants to stop it.

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@ Kronos

Genesi have no problem admitting that they alone decide on which HW MorphOS will run, and they don't hide the fact that they make that desicions only for their own best.

Amiga also have no problem admitting that they alone decide on which HW AmigaOS will run. I mean when they say "everyone who wants OS4 on their HW must get a license from us" its the same as when they say "we decide on which HW the os will run".

No hiding behind bizzare licences, when in reality it is all a matter of getting max. profit
with min. spending (pretty much what Roque said from a different angle).

I have always asked myself whats so "bizarre" about the os4 license that genesi didnt sign it. I might be wrong but afaik Eyetech is not a bigger company than Genesi and they had no problems with the same license, so what was the reason? You seem to know.

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@ Kronos

First of, how do you know that Eyetech has the same licence that  Genesi could obtain ?

In Fleecys Q&A #12 (question 5) he says: "There is nothing to negotiate. Amiga Inc currently has two product lines, the AmigaOS and the AmigaDE. If a third party wishes to use or licence these then they should contact us and they will be given the same deal as anyone else. That third party will then have to meet the same criteria as every other third party in terms of sales, marketing and support in order to guarantee a quality Amiga certified product reaches the consumer."

Their A1-licence predates the OS4-licence  by about 2 years, and didn't they claim to have exclusive rights  just a few days ago ?

Hmm this confuses me ab bit, too. Because I remember a press release from Ainc/Elbox where they claim to have an Os4 license for the shark.

But Fleecy also says in question 5 of Q&A #12: "AmigaOne is a brand name that is exclusively licenced to Eyetech Ltd so Genesi or any other third party cannot use it without either agreement from Eyetech or via building a system using the AmigaOne boards."

So Eyetech only have the exclusive rights to the name "AmigaOne". So genesi only would have to give it another name than amigaone. So there would be no problems for an Os4 Board from genesi named Pegasos, or Pegasos Amiga, or Amiga sos, or whatever.

Now, you might go back to to April 2002, and read all the  contradicting statements about what is in the licence (it is free,  we payed for it, it a different one to the A1-licence, only "A1s" will  run OS4, .......)

I dont know if it was 2002 or earlier but I remember a news item which said that both the bplan board (was not finished at the time I think) and the eyetech product (was also not "finished") will be the first licensed boards for AmigaOs. In my opinion, the future looked much brighter at that time and I wonder how it became so worse like it is today. I dont know any details about the negotiations between the two companies but I think its too easy to blame Ainc for everything.

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@BBRV
where are the free MorphOS versions for BlizzardPPC & CyberstormPPC?

Yeah, you cant be the big hero in amigaland if you not care about the classic users..

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bloodline wrote:
Then there are no heros in Amigaland.

True. At least until now. Both "sides" have announced their os for classic ppc amigas. One side planns to sell it, while the other side want to give it away for free. One side has given a release date, while the other has not. Both sides claim that their Operating systems already run on classic ppc hardware. So I hope to have 2 native ppc Os on my amiga soon although one would be already enough.

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Cool what's the release date..? /me warms up his Blizzard.

It was end of 2003 for the free version of Morphos. It think it was meant as some "christmas present to the community" if I remember correctly.

So bbrv if youre reading, release morphos for classic ppc like you promised and there might be a few less amiga users that cant stand you.