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Re: Pictures of AmigaOne motherboard and statements from Ala
« on: February 08, 2003, 09:18:00 PM »
>>MikeB said
>>Sure MorphOS is nice, but for Amiga software compatibility he could run UAE on Linux as well and probably use a much larger percentage of his legacy software!
>>In which case UAE solutions offer more software compatibility due to chipset emulations.

You seem to forget that MorphOS has an UAE too. Or do you want to claim that LinuxUAE will run more Amiga software than MorphOS' A-Box and MorphOS-UAE together?

You should also not forget that you can run MorphOS applications right from the start (which have the Amiga look&feel) instead of Linux apps for an unforeseeable time. (maybe forever?!)

And also dont forget, that A-Box' JIT performance is ways higher than the Linux/WinUAE-JIT..
 

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Re: Pictures of AmigaOne motherboard and statements from Ala
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2003, 06:49:00 AM »
>>MikeB
>>>>You seem to forget that MorphOS has an UAE too
>>No I wasn't ..

Ok sorry, then i misunderstood this sentence: "In which case UAE solutions offer more software compatibility due to chipset emulations".

>>.. and for the record UAE ports are available for almost all better known OSes, including MacOS, AmigaDE and even AmigaOS itself.

Thats true..but just for the record, A-DE is not an OS (and definitly not "better known" )

>>According to community polls a new Amithon emulation solution by Bernie is the most popular, followed by an AmigaOS4/AmigaOne solution.

Is it? I know other polls ;-)

>>Yes, the entire ABOX is built on top of an Alien kernel, above this kernel is a second "reimplemented" Amiga-like Exec kernel.

So when OS5 comes (if ever) you'll also whine about its alien kernel and the second "reimplemented" Amiga-like Exec kernel which runs in a "sandbox"?

>>>>And also dont forget, that A-Box' JIT performance is ways higher than the Linux/WinUAE-JIT..
>>This depends on the hardware as well.

Sure..i was of course speaking about equal systems.
 

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Re: Pictures of AmigaOne motherboard and statements from Ala
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2003, 06:34:22 PM »
>>MikeB
>>My personal preference would however go towards an AmigaOne-XE solution, as I currently prefer to have an additional PCI slot instead of a smaller form factor board.

To my knowledge, the first 66-MHz PCI-Slot is completely shared with AGPx2. So you can only use 3 PCI  when using an AGP-Card otherwise you'll need the additional PCI for a PCI-GFX-card.
 

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Re: Pictures of AmigaOne motherboard and statements from Ala
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2003, 07:47:47 PM »
>>MikeB
>>Yes you must have, UAE offers more compatibility with Amiga software than an ABOX.

I dont doubt that. I was thinking up to now, that you meant you can actually run more Amiga software
on the AOne with Linux+UAE as on the Pegasos with MorphOS, which i doubt because theres an own
UAE solution and of course the A-Box.

>>The AmigaDE is an OS, with intent being its foundation. Some think the AmigaDE is something which runs on top of intent, but actually the AmigaDE simply includes intent.

I'm aware of it, but i would even go so far to say that AmigaDE is an intent with minor modifications.

>>If you meant to say that the AmigaDE isn't currently a desktop targeted OS, then I would agree. But intent can either run hosted as a transparent compatibility layer on top of other OSes or the OS can also be used non-hosted, like is the case with Kyocera's Pocket Cosmo PDA for example

The reason that it runs hosted on other systems let me stat that its not an OS. But if intent can run unhosted now (and therefore provides necessary resources by itself) i would call it an OS.

>>First of, AmigaOS5 (64-bit) is still a long way off. And I do not think sandboxes would be implemented in the same way as currently is done with the ABOX, where the sandbox takes over the complete system.

It wont be that way in the final stage! As you most probably know, theres the so-called Q-Box in development which will be the complete new OS in the end, while the A-Box will be the Amiga-emulation environment running next to the Q-Box ontop of Quark to provide compatibility with Amiga-legacy software.

>>And for the record I am not whining... I am trying to be informative!

Sorry for being harsh! I though you wanna ride the typical "MorphOS-is-soo-alien-OS"-argumentation ..I apologize! :-)


P.S.: About the PCI-Busses: I just interpretated this from mai.com in that way : "PCI (66 MHz AGP 2X or 33/66 MHz PCI) slot on board".
Thank you Downix for the clarification!