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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« on: May 05, 2012, 07:05:19 PM »
OK so they don`t ship with Amiga name (its X500 plus)
and stickers can be sold separately. So C=USA don`t like Amiga stickers,
what about laser engravement?
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 07:20:42 PM »
Harkonnenization?
Next Dummy might become Feyd-Rautha
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 07:47:35 PM »
Quote from: TheDaddy;691742
Of course there is no Amiga sticker coming with the case.
It'll be completely blank, people can use what they like and print it themselves.
Those are made of paper (used an old inkjet and 80g paper)...

Do they really think I was going to include Amiga stickers?


Well there are 0.50 euros avail from Vesalia
http://www.vesalia.de/e_merchandise[3583].htm#kleinteile
1.90 for Angry Boingball
http://www.vesalia.de/e_angryboingball.htm

They could go nice with AmigaOne mouse
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=37_96

Niote that you will offer it, but you may advise links
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 09:07:04 AM »
Quote from: BigBenAussie;691804
To answer Franko from the other thread, this is just a warning that he is committing an obvious IP violation.
Most likely as a deliberate provocation, given his history of attacks.
I have no desire to see anyone, even one of our harshest of critics, suffer at the end of the law.
You may not respect our company, but trademark law is something else.

OK,  copyrights yes. But product is NOT named Amiga and its just a sticker (several stickers presented). Dont get it too paranoid, Daddy complied.

Its good you are a good person that dont want us to suffer.

However, take a friend advise to open a CUSA CTO/whatever account or your personal account will loose any Amiga user charm by threatening etc.
Appoint one person that will deal with trademark protection and say thanks to several persons that have let you know what the big bad Daddy was doing.

We are living in the small world, and your name is becoming more and more famous.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 10:17:19 AM »
Quote from: BigBenAussie;691784
l.
We're a small company trying to do the best we can with the IP we have, not a big bad corporation.


Why then you behave like one and badly emulated? To survive you would really need to cluster with similar companies and you could have partnership with e.g. Mint team and Cloanto by now, strenghtening your position. Fact is both mentioned companies have treated you friendly.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 11:52:18 AM »
Quote from: TheDaddy;691875
I am working on the modified video...I'll post it as soon as I can.

Sorry for the inconvenience. :)

Harkonnens n Sardakaurs :-)

Hope new video will be up soon and it will take some time to notice
everyone involved

http://oldschoolgameblog.wordpress.com/tag/loriano-pagni/
http://www.frambozenbier.org/index.php/raspi-community-news/23908-loriano-on-x500-plus
http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=6¬e=46607&x=1&z=0D3V8u
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/projects-and-collaboration-general/x500-plus
http://bloggers.com/post/amiga-500-replica-case-introducing-the-x500-plus-6530897

etc.

I ll do edit for A.org and AW.net
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6356
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61505

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I think we should start a fund to give everyone who buys one of these cases a free amiga sticker. I'd happily contribute to that.

Me too, 10$ bounty for additional stickers, no $1000 rip-offs :-)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 08:42:06 PM »
Quote from: dammy;691924
Damn, forgot all about the memo, vote was supposed to be next to those OS4 notebooks.

Please be decent human being with a little bit of shame for Leos behavior. Looks like Jealosy and bad mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkAcR_HHAsA

- AmigaOne X1000 was on sale before Amiga Mini (Amiga Mini suspended release of big $20 000 Amigas being CUSA top model)
- A500 case replica is done by Loriano (CUSA supsended any further new case plan)
- Its likely OS 4.2 and even MOS 3.0 might be out before COS 1.0 (Currently beta 8?) which at 1.0, will not be developed new os promised as COS 2.0 ... and might be Mint 11 (CUSA originally promised Mint 11 and Mint 12 Commodore edition)
- Even that Lime Z9 AmigaOS might be out before promised tablet and netbook Amiga devices by Amiga Inc and C=USA

And who then waits in wain and who works ass for small profit and who is laisy for big one? Problem with high profits its not the way capitalism in crisis works ...

About Loriano: It was unecessary intimiditation to eliminate any possible competition in name. Product is X500 and rest are stickers just as example of OS`s that can be run on hardware put inside. Under those terms it could be fair use, as Leo explained that Cloanto
"had good faith in them" or similar line. Seems Cloanto and Mint treat C=USA fairly, while CUSA beats the weaker.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 10:26:24 PM »
Quote from: dammy;691955
Are you implying that I am not a decent human being?  What's with the personal attack?

Surely, every decent human being is feeling adequately to how Leo responded to X500 showcase.
(or take away person that had to do it, by C=USA response)

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This is a friendly request from Sinclair UK, LLC, the licensee of the trademark, to remove the QL branding from the advertising of this unit.

But since all QL trademarks have been removed, problem of C=USA is ovecomed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtzHIgsS8mw
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 12:49:21 AM »
Quote from: ToddH;691968
Looks like you've got a little interest over at the Atari-Forum Firebee board.

http://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=23355&sid=b11c4642de4ab47a4245a40f642e2aa6

Maybe you should take a picture of the case with the Firebee logo and post it over there?


They should put Atari sticker and whatever was the high end expansion of Atari :-)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 12:14:57 PM »
Quote from: TheDaddy;692032
Thank you for letting me know...

They would look like this:


Alternative LEDs position (on the left).

Thoughts?

http://www.loriano.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ledsalternative.htm


Original A500/A1200 is far right. If that isn`t possible far left is more look a like then central. Even it looks fancy I don`t recall any computer to have LEDs in the middle :-)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 06:58:01 PM »
Quote from: TheDaddy;692090
Hi both,

Can't do right as it fouls the memory on the x86 board and the picoPSU on the SAM460...

The mouse is also in the way and so it's its wire. Removing card (media cards) from the card reader was a pain. But mainly this way all the four motherboards I have tested fit and we get extra space for a low profile PCI/PCI-Express card. ;)


White with left and black with center. Just to make it different, small choice but important :-)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 07:48:25 AM »
Quote from: dammy;692180
Bit of a correction, the license from Amiga Inc is no longer exclusive to just Amiga AIO's, but all Amiga computers.

This has never been announced at Amiga Inc OR C=USA website
 as official news, just rumored at forums. Without documents no faith in liars.

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In another thread you said you would remove the QL trademark from your materials as you cannot use it legally.
You seem to have created another image with the QL trademark present.

So its protecting images and learning to read now.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 10:19:31 PM »
Quote from: Duce;692369
BigBentheAussie is Leo Nigro - CTO of Commodore USA.  Unsure how he does his job from across the world.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Corporate.aspx


Mind its the top level IT professional in the company.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 05:10:20 PM »
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Actually having the dog on the board of directors is pretty Boss.


Seems Moochie is doing most of work and thinking, is only cute and non-violent being there. And so much lawyars, PRs, family ... and yet so little innovation and such campaigns. In public companies people get rotated or replaced. With private companies, it will be bossy until they declare to be out of bussiness, and LCCs are great for that because founders profit and other companies cannot be affected, just the ownership named at company - which is limited Amiga licence and probably rented Florida office.

So one day, PoooF as it came to existance, PoooF it will cease to exist.

And just silence and boycott is helpfull.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 10:28:05 PM »
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I suspect this is why all the C=USA "bare bones" systems all come with blu-ray drives built-in. This way they can claim it's a disk drive, as they don't have the license to produce a case.

Great legal loophole, lets call Lorianos case Amiga 500 Replica and ship it with slim DVD, so we declare it Amiga 500 replica DVD drive

(it`s a joke, its already X500 and with no stickers, but Loraino is great example of "I can, you can"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3aVj1JOz_c
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