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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« on: September 22, 2011, 09:05:10 PM »
Quote from: desiv;660659
I tend to defend C-USA.  Not because I like them or intend to buy them, but because I think the hate tends to be exaggerated..

But $25k?????  Seriously???
And you're calling it an Amiga??  No way...

Call it a Mac IIFX reborn, maybe.  That thing was off the charts price wise when it was released..

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Well, if VICs and basic C64x are their low end, Ultimate C64x medium price now they want to go high end.

However, with all the mind tricks and propaganda of Commodore and Amiga continuation and revival, if it can pull out money for up to $1000 computer,
hardly it can compete to high end market - its no longer going against AmigaOne, Natami etc. retro mania, but against Dell, IBM, high end Apple etc.
Even if budnled with CommodoreOS and Windows 7.

Better if they made A1200 look a like with some affordable AMD CPU and GFX.

But they have the plan of their own.

Such policies will either kill em or make em rich.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 09:52:33 PM »
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Hint: it sure as hell ain't gonna make 'em rich.

But hey, I've been waiting for a spectacular flameout like this since around the time Barry started getting angry with people for not thinking that renting an office in a strip mall made him Big Cheese in the retrocomputing world.


Well, they do their math, enjoying their ups and downs but competing in x86 market is harsh thing to do. Commodore64x mania will probably wear out by the next year, so in PeeCee world something new is welcome. We ll se how they will do their job by 2013.

Latest one we can learn (usual with CUSA now) is that it will not be the design presented on website. And big thing will be when we see the most secret OS of all times - CommodoreOS

Hope MorphOS 3.0 and maybe even AmigaOS 4.2 will be out by then as well as some AROS updates to enjoy the real developments.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 11:05:53 PM »
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Go ask your local TV or Cable company on what they are currently using.  The high end Commodore Amigas will not be sitting collecting dust but in use to make money.  Now I could see some AIO Commodore Amigas sitting on a normal person's desk being use to surf the web and play games but certainly not the high end desktops.


Well then it better should come with Windows, Lightwave, Scala etc.

In hardware only choices, reliable supplier with real support is appriciated and people (sorry companies) will not care about the Amiga name at all.

Believe its called "overplaying oneself", but let CUSA do it when they desire so. Its heavier and much riskier quest then retro exploit mission.

"From scatchy website to full professionalism in year or two"

Even new website / facebook / PR might get ordinary geeks (even not satisfied about install yourself Ubuntu) it will take much more to get those kind of customers.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 02:43:40 PM »
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I am not at liberty to explain it but there are some massive pieces to this puzzle you haven't heard about, yet.


Small piece of the puzzle is that (with Amiga Inc consent?) there
all in one (monitor) "Amiga" computers already http://www.icontainstore.com/brands/Amiga.html
Its very likely CUSA is trying to make difference to them.
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 05:05:43 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;660709
What mania? The reaction to the C64x outside of the Commodore/Amiga community totalled one brief moment of "huh, really?" when it got its first real publicity in the outside world, followed by a handful of tech-site articles noting that "well, uh, it's a nice case, but it's just a mid-range Atom board in there, so...what's the big deal, again?" Hell, there was as much interest in CUSA generated when Barry theratened to sue OSNews. And we haven't seen the sales numbers (or rather, the real ones, not the dammy ones,) but I guarantee you if it were anything even close to 100,000 there would be a whole lot more crowing from the CUSA sycophants.


Well, certainly, there are web reviews, don`t know have the major magazines reviewed it at all. Loved the Wired comments "It’s a cute gimmick, to be sure, and one that would surely sell well if it didn’t cost so much. As it is, there must be a very limited set of customers willing to drop big money on a novelty Ubuntu box.

And anyway, the real nerds will be waiting for Commodore’s next big project: The resurrection of the majestic Amiga, albeit in the shape of a DVD player. These machines will use PC hardware but run “Commodore OS,” a mysterious operating system that will either be awesome or awful. I can’t wait."

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It's all but disappeared down the public-interest hole, and considering that by more than a few accounts the end-user experience has consisted of pestering Barry to fix the cooling problems until he stopped pouting and put in another fan, that's probably merciful. They don't need to revive interest, they need to let it die down until everybody has completely forgotten and then start fresh.
Hint: it's going to be a Linux distribution with a custom skin on the window manager. If he's feeling really wild it might be FreeBSD.


Well does it takes months to beta test little add-ons and AmigaForever integration? And boot screen choice? Lets see can they do better!

Even name of COS have changed (like a real serious company, they could rename themselves - persons in charge - one day) ... its just Linux Mint. And two flavours - retro and future! Even its fairer when people know what it is, one must note.

"Today I am proud to announce that I have selected Linux Mint 11, Commodore OEM Edition, as the Operating System that we will install on every new computer we produce. We will make this Mint 11 distribution available to all of our current owners as well. Additionally, our CTO, Leo Nigro has developed and produced a retro inspired ISO, based on Linux Mint 10, which will also be available. "
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Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 11:29:27 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;660872
"Resurrection?" If by that you mean a "shambling, decaying mockery of what was once a living thing" kind of resurrection, I suppose you could say that:


Its sad so many people don`t know of MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 some will eve buy that "zombification"

Quote from: (And, psst, here's a hint: "Commodore OS" will be re-skinned Linux. There's no mystery about that, no matter how much dammy insists otherwise.)[/QUOTE


As you could see from latest masterplans they will have Mints Commodore OEM editions, so after Workbench V debackle even the CommodoreOS name is changed. Sounds like everything is insecure with CUSA :laughing:

As with Commodore64x only "seeing is believeing" and so far they have managed to produce 1 case as somethig new. WhateverOS will be their next real endavour beside glossy websites and big words.
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