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Beginner Programing
« on: February 22, 2003, 04:47:25 PM »
From one beginner to any others....
There was another thread started by someone
asking the best way to get started programing.
He received advice on everything from Fortran
to Java.
I wouldn't be supprised if he gives up.
Since I am a beginner I can relate to his problem.
Nobody said anything that was very helpful (IMHO).
I wanted to start programing, and I have several
options open to me. I have numerious manuals
languages ether perched or given to me,all legal.
And the route I chose to take was to start with
AmigaBasic. And yes I know its CRAP, but its also
probably the most documented. Books and example
code both good and bad are very easy to find.
When I started school and they tought me to read
they didn't give me the book "War & Peace" to learn
from, they gave me "Dick & Jane see Spot run".
My opinion is to start with AmigaBasic and except
the scoffs and Boo's. Its the easiest way.
There is no substatute manuals and there is probably more writen on basic than any other.
AmigaBasic will run on your Classic Amiga.
I have an A3000, 3.1 OS, A3640 accelerator and
a Retina Z2 gfx card and it runs quite well.
I have moved on to Blitz2 now, AmigaBasic can
only take you so far than you have to move on.
Maybe "C" will be next or maybe not, I don't know.
I am enjoying my self, not racking my head with
"Information Overload" that I would be getting
tring to learn "C".
Its very difficult to try to understand a concept
if you don't even know what the concept is that
you are tring to understand.
So start small, AmigaBasic or AREXX.
You'll know when you are ready to move up.

 (IMHO)
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Re: Beginner Programing
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2003, 03:12:04 PM »
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Stop moaning and start doing something

IMHO, I think you guys are making a mistake.
You are pushing anyone that wants to do some
programing into using "C". Instead of bullieing
them into a language they don't want to try yet
you should be offer help and incouragement in
in any language they choose. You speak of
learning bad habbits. I don't agree, they learn
different habbits. The structure in basic is not
bad, just different. As an example, you should
not learn the English language as it teachs bad
habbits. Look at most other languages. Their
structure is simular. In Spanish and many others
you say "cosa blanca" or "house white".
So English is bad, we say "white house".
English is not bad, its just different.
I say you should support and help the new
programer in what-ever language he or she
wants to start with.
Amiga needs them to be incorriged, "NOT"
discorriged.

(IMHO)
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Re: Beginner Programing
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2003, 03:13:04 AM »
Now... ;-)
 Some of you are starting to make sense.
I'm a 63 yrs.old man & retired.
My A3k is one of my hobbies. The PC bores
me. I'm just a hobbiest, I don't think I will
 write anything that will shake the Amiga world
to its roots. If I write something that someone
else can use then thats great, if not thats ok too.
Anything I write only has to satisify me and no one
else. The point I was tring to get across to you is
that there is a great many more hobbiests like me
out there. And face it the hobbiests are what is
keeping the Amiga alive. Just for the hell of it I
did a Google search today on "ATARI ST".  You
know there is an Atari.org out there. What do you
think is keeping that machine alive??? Its certinly
not what most of you are calling the "serious
programer". Its hobbiests.
I started with AmigaBasic because its what i had
and the easiest to understand in the beginning.
I have already moved up to Blitz, and it looks pretty
good. After working with Amigabasic I can now
make sense of Blitz. What started all this I guess
is another thread where some other guy was
asking for help and advice. I know how he felt.
Remember .. without us "hobbiests" the Amiga
really IS dead.
As for me, if my A3k dies I have an A500, and if
that one dies I can fall back to my A1000.
A hobbiest forever......

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Re: Beginner Programing
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2003, 10:25:06 PM »
So.....
 I think the name of AmiBlitz should be
changed to "RODNEY DANGERFIELD".
===It just don't get no respect.===
If there is anyone out there besides me
 interested in AmiBlitz, start another thread
called "RODNEY" and maybe some things can
be discussed without being treated like a
second class citizen.
If nothing .. then I'll SHUT-UP

Mel Ott
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