Amiga.org and Bias

[Vincent]

Merko wrote:
Just as an example: This latest thing with the Agreement/No agreement  exchange between bbrv and McEwen. I can't help but noticing that when  AInc made their statements, there were quite a lot of people instantly  taking this as some kind of "proof" that bbrv were lying. On the  contrary, when bbrv makes statements, the vast majority of  Pegasos/MorphOS supporters try to make the two statements fit together  somehow rather than automatically believing bbrv's words as the only  valid point of view and McEwen to be full of lies.

I see this the other way round.  MOS/Genesi fans seem to gladly take bbrv's word for things and deny that any truth is in A.Inc's statements.  This has happened a LOT on forums I'm a member of.  A.Inc fans usually wait and see what BOTH parties say before doing anything.

Sure some people from both sides jump to conclusions right away and get aggressive/aggressively protective towards the other camp, but they're just the usual trolls.

But enough of that, both sides are generally as bad as each other.

alx commented:
Out of interest, what is Wayne's official position now? If he does still have moderator capabilities, can his rank say that to avoid confusion?

That's what I'd like to know.  From the Ray situation it seems as though he doesn't have mod powers anymore.  (Sorry for bringing that up, but it's just an observation)

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I had typed up a reply to this and Opera decided to die, so I'm making this one shorter because I can't be bothered to type it all again.

I agree with uncharted here.

Things have improved recently, but there was a time when flame posts by HMetal and others were getting edited in THE SAME THREAD as flame posts by bbrv.  It was only after complaints by a number of members that bbrv's posts were edited.  And then it seemed grudgingly edited.

One of the few moderators that I've seen here that are impartial is Targhan.  When he became an employee of Genesi he asked us if he should step down as moderator or not.  We all (including some A.Inc fans) said that he should still moderate if he could keep his preferences out of the topics.  Which he has done - either that or I haven't seen any of the problem ones ;-)

I'm an A.Inc supporter (I don't belive things until I have proof from BOTH sides of anything to do with A.Inc OR Genesi - I try to stay in the middle), and I don't like bbrv, well, bb inparticular, I don't think I've actually spoken to rv.  I haven't payed much attention to the Genesi side of things because of my feelings for bb.

After saying that, I would have to admit that Targhan seems to be the most impartial moderator here (of the ones I've actually seen moderate anyway, I was beginning to think the others were made up to make it look good until I saw SlvrDrgn posting recently :-P).  The fact that he's on Genesi's "side" hasn't come through here.

I wish more people were like him.

Now, I'm about to hit the "Go!" button, lets hope it doesn't die this time ;-)

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Poster: bhoggett Date: 2003/8/22 18:43:53
@Vincent

I should point out that I have no problem whatsoever with Targhan's moderation.

I never actually thought in that way.  I was just making general comments of the way I've seen things.  It didn't actually register that you mentioned Targhan in your post until I read your post after mine.

@Targhan

No probs :-D