800Mhz A1G3XE the best choice than the 800Mhz A1G4XE?

[Helgis75]

Thought this thread would be the most interesting...It may seem that the A1G3XE is the only one having a faster CPU than originally planned...

Would this mean that the 800Mhz A1G3XE would be the best choice, as opposed to the 800Mhz A1G4XE?

If this speed-similarity is the case, then i feel i should really consider the 800Mhz A1G3XE, because of the full 512KB L2-cache, and the CPU is from IBM. The 750FX G3 CPU is just 1 year old, being produced last year!

Anyone is free to send feedback to this thread, but it has to be related excatly to the A1G3XE vs A1G4XE..Do NOT write other things that don't have anything to do with this thread! Very important, as i want clear answers to all my questions...

[Helgis75]

Well, i really think of going for the 800Mhz A1G3XE, and it's easier available than the G4. Anyway, as long as it's an XE, i should be able to upgrade to a powerful G4 at a later date...As a start, i don' t think it will be so much Altivec-support, really...

It's also more interesting to try out the new 750FX G3 CPU running at 800Mhz! I have now asked Datakompaniet in Norway to send back the extra 729 NOK i paid for the A1G4XE-model, so when available, they will send me the 800Mhz A1G3XE, which actually was my original order...

[Helgis75]

The XE has got the AMR-slot ditched...

[Helgis75]

Quite funny..hehe...But i'm glad you also think of the 800Mhz A1G3XE as very good, too..:-)

Of course, if there was an option to go for a 1.2Ghz A1G4XE, then i would have gone for that, but when both the A1G3XE and A1G4XE are 800Mhz, then the A1G3XE simply is a better choice...and someone mentioned that the G4 seems harder to deliver than the G3....Tougher shipment for the G4 than the G3...

[Helgis75]

That's not quite true about the G3. The 750FX G3 at 800Mhz is clearly up to 60-70% faster than the 600Mhz 750CXe G3. The 750CXe only has a 256KB L2-cache and other limitations than the 512KB L2-Cache in the new 750FX G3. The new 750FX also has many other improvements to perfomance and overall technology...

[Helgis75]

I was a bit confused to what to go for, and this also affected Datakompaniet a little while, but i was fast enough to tell them that i keep sticking to the best choice actually - the A1G4XE, no matters how fast it will be...so, i should be safe about that...

[Helgis75]

ksk wrote:
Helgis75, if you want to start playing with the LinuxPPC before AOS4 ships, go for it. Do not worry wether it's G3 or G4.

No matter how it ends up, you can most likely upgrade the CPU easily, if you later deside so.

If the G4 model is not available when AOS4 ships I get the other chip, if it's available.

Good advice, my dear friend:-) I let the order be unchanged now (A1G4XE it is), as long as it will arrive...If not, in time for OS4 to be delivered, then it should be the G3-XE instead...

But clearly, the G4 must be the best one, right? Many reasons for that, isn't it?

[Helgis75]

You are actually right! Still waiting for my A1G4XE mobo...I caused a little confusion at Datakompaniet when reading about the update to the A1G3XE, but i was luckily fast enough to send mail back and demand to keep sticking to the A1G4XE order! :-)

These are what i have:

Black Chieftech Dragon MIDI-Tower w/360W PSU + 4 Cooler-fans
1GB SDRAM DIMMs (2 parts 512MB 133Mhz Buf.Reg.ECC-type)
Black internal 1.44MB HD-Floppy
Black internal Samsung 16x/48x DVD-ROM EIDE/ATAPI
Black internal Plextor 40x/12x/40x CDRW EIDE/ATAPI
Crucial ATI Radeon 8500LE 128MB DDR AGP card
SoundBlaster Live Digital 5.1 PCI-soundcard
Logitech Cordless Desktop Comfort/Optical MouseMan

Remaing parts are:

120GB x 2 Western Digital harddrives
19" Hyundai DynaFlat SVGA Silver/Black monitor
Inspire 6700 6.1 Digital Surround-speakers..

That's all..:-)

[Helgis75]

ksk wrote:
@Helgis75
>But clearly, the G4 must be the best one, right? Many reasons for that, isn't it?

The comparisson is not simple.

G4 has the Altivec, 750FX has larger cache, G4 has extra instruction unit, 750FX has shorter instruction pipeline, G4 can have L3 cache, 750FX consumes only 5.7W of power at 1Ghz, etc...

 With the Altivec optimized code G4 can do unbelieveable things in scientific applications and it does have faster FPU... and it has better SMP support than the G3.

IMO: G4 is slightly better.  If G4 is fully used it's a lot better...


I think some Hyperion guy once said that Warp3D might benefit from Altivec ... that could yield better 3D performance...

Clearly impressive stuffs! Damn it! What the hell! I keep sticking with my A1G4XE order then! Here we go!!! :-)  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  8-)  8-)  :-o  :oops:  :roll:  :hammer:  :crazy:  :destroy:  :destroy:  :flame:  :flame:  :destroy:

[Helgis75]

Ami603 wrote:
HOW!!?!? Your Radeon 8500 has 128Mb DDR?
Mine only had 64Mb.But is an ATI itself,not a Powered by
Ati GFX card,what differences and how about performance at all?

Glad you asked, buddy:-) Made by ATI yes, but delivered by Crucial. 128MB yes, at 250Mhz clock speed with 128-bit DDR-memory...Not that bad at all..That's why it called 8500LE....:-)

[Helgis75]

Ami603 wrote:
The worst difference about both your and my system are that
i can Have OS4 Sooner than you,in fact,i ALREADY have it!
:-D:-D

Lucky bastard, then! Hehe...! :-)  :-D  :-D  :-D

[Helgis75]

I believe it's possible to overclock the graphic board, but it seems to risky..

[Helgis75]

Should be too long before my A1G4XE should arrive... :-)  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

[Helgis75]

Excellent! Should be very soon! About time! :-)  :-D