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Re: I need some help......
« on: August 31, 2003, 05:58:14 AM »
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To Piru:

Yes, they are low-level formatted at the factory, but they are formatted for a PC, they are NOT low-level formatted for an Amiga computer.  Do your homework, buddy.     :-P


Dude, how many times do you have to be told?  Do *NOT* low-level format wether it be SCSI or IDE.  EVER. Full Stop.  Way too many things can go wrong during a low-level format that will make that drive a paper weight.

I low-level formatted a Seagate SCSI drive with HDToolBox and it was destroyed.

On another note:  Properply low-level formating a drive on a PC will yeild the exact same results as low-level formating on an Amiga, Mac, or whatever as far as the drive is concerned.  The capabilities and physical characteristics of a drive don't change just because you put it in an Amiga.
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Re: Low-Level Formatting
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2003, 08:33:05 AM »
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Amiga computers are suppose to use SCSI hard drives, NOT IDE hard drives.


A computer is supposed to use whatever interface is built into it.  The system designer(s) is/are the one(s) who decide what's 'supposed' to be in there.

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 Only people that really do not know what they are doing would even think about installing an inferior hard drive


Notions of inferior are all in your head.  It's all about what you really need.  The mechanical parts of SCSI and IDE drives are not sigificantly different.    Also, you must keep in mind that SCSI isn't just for hard disks.  IDE is only for harddisks.  Because of this Integraded Drive Electronics can be less expensive because they only have one base to cover.

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 So the platters in an Amiga hard disk does not always spin at the same speed.


I want to know exactly where you get this from. Book, author and page, please.  Pretend it's a bibliography entry for a report.

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Also, the PC uses Sectors and the Amiga uses Blocks.  


Sector and blocks are logical conventions.

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It does NOT hurt the drive, because all you are doing is writing information about the drive to the boot blocks 0 and 1.


Ahem.  To low-level format a hard disk is to place Zeros in all magnetic domains, among other things. It is not limited to blocks 0 and 1.
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Re: Low-Level Formatting
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2003, 11:45:10 PM »
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maxplunder wrote:
I have and will always do a Low-Level Format on drives when I recieve them.  


You are really just wasting time.  New harddives are ignoring you because an end-user LLF is not needed.

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 the SCSI bus is still the same.


Yep, it's still the SCSI bus but the drives mechanics are NOT the same.

I suggest reading through the links Piru presented.  An alternate location for the Hard Disk Geometry info can be found HERE.  It's well worth the read.

Hard drives have changed ALOT since thier inception.  Hell, they changed alot just in the 1990's.  Much of the wisdom that applied to harddrives when we all started in computers doesn't apply anymore because they are just so much better now.
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